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If you need numbers I am ok to be part of it.

OMFG man HESI I gave you his name in the post, he replied, ffs its hard work sometimes.

Hillariously, I have 666 likes when I looked just now. The paranoia displayed is entertaining but miles from the reality. Go back to a post by Hesi in response, the answer is contained in there.

Obviously no one, Hesi has confirmed.

His posting is incredibly similar to someone on this site Hesi, might be the same person?.

You were right Hesi, this is beyond the understanding levels of some on here. Simple is still a struggle so let’s go to basic. 1) No, he is a very talented rider for sure, but better than anyone else I don’t think so. 2) Repeat answer 1 above. Please can you put up some information to support your side of the debate rather than just your opinion.

I think it’s you whom is struggling to grasp this concept. I will make it simple as pie for you. if a horses market price (fixed closing price) is $2,00 then the horse has a theoretical 50% chance of winning the race. Now if Opie is winning 48% of the time on $2 shots and Allpress is winning 53% of the time on $2 rides then one of then is riding below market expectation and the other above. You apply the same principal across all rides to give you a market expectation. Now over any reasonable length of time this will give you an idea of a riders ability. I am not saying Op

I certainly do, there might be 2-3 on here capable of even understanding it. Do I use it? No as said many times on here & other sites, I cannot quantify it & therefore its useless to me before the race.

Not only about price value Hesi, these guys/gals over the last 2 yrs have consistently outridden the market assessed ability of the horse. IMO Lisa Allpress based on the stats is easily the most talented rider in NZ over the last 2 yrs. Her performance is exceptional & she is over 20% ahead of any other rider in riding above the horses ability (market assessed).

In answer to the question about Jockeys from earlier here are the ones that are very postive expectation wise when they take a mount. Now just to stop all the dickhead posts before they happen, I am not saying that they would out do Opie in a tight G1 race etc, but overall they represent fantastic value when taking a mount and they consistently outride the market. In leading value order. Lisa Allpress (superior to all others by a wide margin) Kozzi Asano Craig Grylls Tina Comignaghi Ashvin Goindasamy Ryan Elliot/Johnathon Parkes

Certainly isn't when it comes to Hesi, other than by himself. Hahaha Sorry Hesi, I know you are trying to be serious here, but geez try not to adopt communist China with cutting intelligent strong debate, encourage the team to play the ball not the man & all should be good.

Perfect Freda, you just got confirmation that you are saying the right things. With a response like that a raw nerve has been hit and you are keeping the bastards honest.

No, expressing an opinion, the same as you did regarding Opie.

No & I am not likely to either, Like Mardigras I don’t consider jockeys in my calculations as I cannot quantify them and the improvement or not they bring to individual runners. However the information I do have I use combined with a few other factors to bet Jockey Challenges and other areas which I am satisfied with.

Mardi has put them up here a few times already, what I have is almost identical. Please can you put up the same, supporting that he is head and shoulders above the rest, not just an opinion.