Maximus Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) THE 'INCIDENT' THAT WAS NEARLY A TRAGEDY ... Two track maintenance workers at NZ's premier racecourse, were 'tapping'/replacing divots on the track DURING THE 2YO FEATURE RACE, 'CHAMPAGNE STAKES' SAT 24 APRIL 2021. Would have been funny if it wasn't life-threateningly STUPID. And completely AVOIDABLE. Pick up the 'discussion' on Weigh In if you like, around the 13 minute mark (but don't expect to hear an apology or any accountability from the ARC for a completely inexcusable piece of incompetence that simply adds to NZ racing being a joke). "Not our finest moment." says the CEO of our premier racing club. Mr Wilcox, you need to own these mistakes...and that starts by saying "On behalf of the ARC, I apologise to everyone concerned..." MM MM Edited April 27, 2021 by Maximus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 But measures are going to be put in place to ensure the process going forward is bulletproof..........so he has done his job. By that read, covered his backside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Unbelievable, we are so bloody amateurish and reinforces me not to bet on NZ races, just cannot be bothered with the BS going on week after bloody week. Just pathetic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 How come we have not heard a word from WorkSafe in this politically correct world? Surely they are all over this fiasco ... MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Maximus said: How come we have not heard a word from WorkSafe in this politically correct world? Surely they are all over this fiasco ... MM “We had a really good debrief on Saturday and we will have a Health and Safety investigation tomorrow (Tuesday) to make sure the process going forward is bulletproof. I presume that will be with WorkSafe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Hesi said: “We had a really good debrief on Saturday and we will have a Health and Safety investigation tomorrow (Tuesday) to make sure the process going forward is bulletproof. I presume that will be with WorkSafe PERHAPS ...but making sure the 'process going forward is bulletproof' glosses over the possibility/probability that ARC is culpable and could/should be fined and/or made an example of for their incompetence/negligence/ carelessness in a clearly hazardous environment. So .. Was it an internal Health and Safety investigation? Who/what was to blame for the debacle? Will the findings be made public? If so, when? If not, why not? Why didn't the presenters on Weigh In ask the important questions? Is ARC on the receiving end of some punishment (financial or not?) Edited April 27, 2021 by Maximus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Maximus said: PERHAPS ...but making sure the 'process going forward is bulletproof' glosses over the possibility/probability that ARDC is culpable and could/should be fined and/or made an example of for their incompetence/negligence/ carelessness in a clearly hazardous environment. So .. Was it an internal Health and Safety investigation? Who/what was to blame for the debacle? Will the findings be made public? If so, when? If not, why not? Why didn't the presenters on Weigh In ask the important questions? Is ARC on the receiving end of some punishment (financial or not?) Have they ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanturk Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Maximus said: PERHAPS ...but making sure the 'process going forward is bulletproof' glosses over the possibility/probability that ARDC is culpable and could/should be fined and/or made an example of for their incompetence/negligence/ carelessness in a clearly hazardous environment. So .. Was it an internal Health and Safety investigation? Who/what was to blame for the debacle? Will the findings be made public? If so, when? If not, why not? Why didn't the presenters on Weigh In ask the important questions? Is ARC on the receiving end of some punishment (financial or not?) They would have to fill out a near miss report for filing in there h & s report. In that , there is no punishment as it's all inhouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) if it's all in-house, there will be no meaningful accountability. Has WorkSafe show any interest in the 'incident'? A quick cut and paste from their website follows (note the last phrase). What are my employer's duties under the Health and Safety at Work Act? a safe system of work; a safe place of work; safe equipment, plant and machinery; safe and competent people working alongside you, because employers are also liable for the actions of their staff and managers; Edited April 27, 2021 by Maximus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForValue Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 My horse was scratched after the event, was going pretty well too. Watch next start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LookingForValue said: My horse was scratched after the event, was going pretty well too. Watch next start. How do you think the connections of Te Poropiti feel/felt after that nonsense? Has the ARC compensated them for the stuff-up? Edited April 27, 2021 by Maximus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 We have seen quite a few near misses in racing. Horses let go with an attendant still in front, golfers on the course, the guy that walked onto the track at Trentham. I can't recall WorkSafe being involved in any of the incidents?? Maybe not their brief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForValue Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 36 minutes ago, Maximus said: How do you think the connections of Te Poropiti feel/felt after that nonsense? Has the ARC compensated them for the stuff-up? Yes I agree, horse still runs 5th and gets no pay out. Should be compensated as others were disadvantaged who placed and collected. Poor show once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Hesi said: We have seen quite a few near misses in racing. Horses let go with an attendant still in front, golfers on the course, the guy that walked onto the track at Trentham. I can't recall WorkSafe being involved in any of the incidents?? Maybe not their brief Hesi, a loony-toon member of the public deliberately walking onto the track as an act of 'bravado' is hardly the same as two employees doing dumb and avoidable shite like what we saw on Saturday. Calling it a 'near miss' as in 'accident' is not good enough. Edited April 28, 2021 by Maximus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Looking up the Worksafe website, only a dangerous incident is notifiable, and looking up the details of what a dangerous incident is, on the same website, being run over by a horse is not specified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanturk Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Hesi said: Looking up the Worksafe website, only a dangerous incident is notifiable, and looking up the details of what a dangerous incident is, on the same website, being run over by a horse is not specified If it has the potential to be serious, then worksafe have to be informed. Going on the video, I would suggest it maybe? Edited April 28, 2021 by vanturk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Agree entirely Bryce, this could have been an absolute catastrophe with loss of life to the track workers and jockeys. Surely the matter stands for independent investigation so the rule book is strengthened 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanturk Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 The problem Tom is, even if the arc had processes in place for this not to happen, companies or organizations like arc, can't help if a employee decides to do there own thing against company prodicol. That will come up under there h & s audit, usually tho, if that happens, companies tend to get rid of those type of people, cause repeat performance, usually there not so lucky and fines can be a mill $, + in event of death 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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