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6 minutes ago, mardigras said:

that one's too easy though Hesi. Waikato Times Gold Cup. He raced back in NZ following each of his cup runs - reasonably soon thereafter. He ran 3rd in the 93 NZ Cup after running 11 days earlier in the Melbourne Cup. You can just look up his record to confirm the dates.

Gonna have to dig a lot deeper on these questions aren't I

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Going to have to get a lot tougher.

These 3 iconic Aus horses, between them had almost 200 starts, and despite 7 attempts, none ever won a MC

Tough horses compared to the light campaigns of most of today's mob

Who are they

13.  Well tried with over 70 starts, including 4 attempts at the Caulfield Cup, 2 attempts at the MC.  Won a lot of major G1 cups, even beat the MC winner of that year in a race a month before the cup, carrying 10.5 kg more.  Developed a homing pigeon tendency when retired

14.  Again, over 70 starts, 3 MC attempts for no wins, in fact their last race was in the MC.  Quite a bit of a different career, as they had no group race starts at 3 years, and only one of those races was at 2000m, the rest mainly being in the sprinter/miler range.

15.  Over 40 starts, with a more than 50% win record.  Raced in the MC as a 3 year old and a 4 year old, and not even close.  Unbeaten as a 5 year old.  Great name

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1 hour ago, VC! said:

14 Super Impose

Right on also Ian, how did you figure that out

Race Record For Super Impose

Age Fin Date Track Race Distance Jockey Weight Winner/2nd Betting Runners Time
Age Finished Date Track Race Distance Jockey Weight Winner/2nd      
3yo 1st 28-Dec-87 Seymour Strathbogie Maiden 1200m S Burridge 53.5kg 2-Mighty Kaoru      
3yo 2nd 12-Jan-88 Seymour Improvers Hcp 1300m S Burridge 53.5kg 1-Ranchero Star      
3yo 3rd 25-Jan-88 Sandown Tolerance Hcp 1400m C Dinn 54.5kg 1-Past Habit      
3yo 12th 9-Feb-88 Moonee Valley St Magnus Hcp 1636m C Dinn 53.5kg 1-Devil's Dare      
3yo 2nd 20-Feb-88 Geelong Progressive Hcp 1700m S Burridge 54kg 1-Just Eartha      
3yo 2nd 4-Mar-88 Colac Improvers Hcp 2000m S Burridge 54.5kg 1-Oblation      
3yo 1st 7-May-88 Benalla Improvers Hcp 1200m P Riley 56.5kg 2-Sun Vita      
3yo 5th 25-May-88 Caulfield Ormond Hcp 1400m S Marshall 53.5kg 1-Haughty Lad      
3yo 2nd 1-Jun-88 Flemington Glencoe Hcp 1400m D Gauci 54kg 1-Chetford      
3yo 11th 18-Jun-88 Sandown Mayfield Hcp 1400m H White 52kg 1-Silver Scout      
4yo 3rd 7-Sep-88 Seymour Progressive Hcp 1200m S Marshall 55kg 1-High Mission      
4yo 4th 1-Oct-88 Flemington Open Hcp 1600m S Marshall 50kg 1-Bonded      
4yo 2nd 12-Oct-88 Caulfield Welter 1600m S Marshall 52kg 1-Eastern Classic      
4yo 3rd 20-Oct-88 Geelong Open Hcp 1700m S Marshall 52kg 1-Barusha      
4yo 2nd 5-Nov-88 Flemington Grey Smith Stakes 2000m D Gauci 52.5kg 1-Crown Ridge      
4yo 2nd 16-Nov-88 Ballarat Ballarat Cup 2200m M Heagney 51.5kg 1-Great Warrior      
4yo 1st 26-Nov-88 Sandown Eclipse Stakes 2100m M Heagney 52kg 2-Crown Ridge      
4yo 1st 17-Dec-88 Rosehill Welter 1900m RS Dye 59.5kg 2-Garoona      
4yo 1st 26-Dec-88 Randwick Summer Cup 2400m RS Dye 55.5kg 2-Moniuszko     2.28.05
4yo 2nd 11-Feb-89 Sandown CF Orr Stakes 1400m D Gauci 57kg 1-Vo Rogue      
4yo 2nd 25-Feb-89 Caulfield St George Stakes 1800m RS Dye 57kg 1-Vo Rogue      
4yo 1st 4-Mar-89 Caulfield TS Carlyon Cup 2000m D Gauci 57kg 2-Dandy Andy      
4yo 2nd 11-Mar-89 Flemington Australian Cup 2000m D Gauci 57kg 1-Vo Rogue      
4yo 5th 6-May-89 Eagle Farm Sir Byrne Hart Stakes 1400m RS Dye 57kg 1-Groucho      
4yo 8th 13-May-89 Gold Coast Hollindale Cup 1800m RS Dye 57kg 1-Eye Of The Sky      
5yo 9th 26-Aug-89 Sandown Grange Hcp 1000m D Oliver 57.5kg 1-Undoubted      
5yo 3rd 9-Sep-89 Flemington Craiglee Stakes 1600m D Gauci 58.5kg 1-Apollo Run      
5yo 2nd 23-Sep-89 Sandown Vite Cheval Hcp 1600m D Oliver 58kg 1-Painted Ocean      
5yo 4th 28-Sep-89 Caulfield Underwood Stakes 2000m D Gauci 59kg 1-Almaarad     2.01.9
5yo 1st 7-Oct-89 Flemington Turnbull Stakes 2000m D Gauci 57.5kg 2-Research      
5yo 9th 14-Oct-89 Caulfield Caulfield Stakes 2000m H White 59kg 1-Almaarad     2.02.1
5yo 10th 21-Oct-89 Caulfield Caulfield Cup 2400m RS Dye 56kg 1-Cole Diesel 12-1 18 ran 2.27.2
5yo 4th 4-Nov-89 Flemington Mackinnon Stakes 2000m D Gauci 58.5kg 1-Horlicks      
5yo 2nd 7-Jan-89 Flemington Melbourne Cup 3200m D Gauci 56kg 1-Tawriffic 25-1 23 ran 3.17.1
5yo 3rd 27-Jan-90 Caulfield JRA Plate 1000m D Gauci 60kg 1-Street Ruffian      
5yo 2nd 10-Feb-90 Sandown CF Orr Stakes 1400m RS Dye 57.5kg 1-Vo Rogue     1.23.3
5yo 2nd 17-Feb-90 Flemington Blamey Stakes 1600m D Gauci 57.5kg 1-Better Loosen Up      
5yo 3rd 12-Mar-90 Flemington Australian Cup 2000m D Gauci 58kg 1-Vo Rogue      
5yo 3rd 24-Mar-90 Rosehill Segenhoe Stakes 2000m L Dittman 58kg 1-Better Loosen Up      
5yo 1st 14-Apr-90 Randwick Doncaster Hcp 1600m B Compton 57kg 2-Shaftesbury Avenue     1.38.4
6yo 1st 18-Aug-90 Warwick Warwick Stakes 1400m D Gauci 58.5kg 2-Eastern Classic     1.24.3
6yo 2nd 1-Sep-90 Randwick Chelmsford Stakes 1600m D Gauci 58.kg 1-Stargazer     1.36.9
6yo 2nd 22-Sep-90 Randwick George Main Stakes 1600m D Gauci 58.5kg 1-Shaftesbury Avenue     1.35.9
6yo 1st 29-Sep-90 Randwick Epsom Hcp 1600m D Gauci 58.5kg 2-Our Poverty Bay     1.36.1
6yo 2nd 13-Oct-90 Caulfield Caulfield Stakes 2000m D Oliver 59kg 1-Sydeston     2.03.00
6yo 7th 19-Jan-91 Sandown Rubiton Stakes 1000m D Gauci 57.5kg 1-Redelva      
6yo 1st 2-Feb-91 Flemington Chester Manifold Stakes 1400m D Gauci 57kg 2-Coachman's Chill      
6yo 5th 9-Feb-91 Sandown CF Orr Stakes 1400m D Gauci 57.5kg 1-Planet Ruler     1.23.00
6yo 1st 23-Feb-91 Warwick Farm Chipping Norton Stakes 1600m D Beadman 58kg 2-Royal Creation     1.36.0
6yo 1st 9-Mar-91 Rosehill Ranvet Stakes 2000m D Beadman 58kg 2-Royal Creation     2.00.98
6yo 6th 23-Mar-91 Rosehill The BMW 2400m D Beadman 58.5kg 1-Dr Grace     2.28.16
6yo 1st 30-Mar-91 Randwick Doncaster Hcp 1600m D Beadman 59.5kg 2-Royal Creation     1.36.5
6yo 2nd 6-Apr-91 Randwick All Aged Stakes 1600m D Beadman 57.5kg 1-Shafterbury Avenue     1.33.8
7yo 1st 24-Aug-91 Warwick Farm Warwick Stakes 1400m D Beadman 58.5kg 2-Livistona Lane     1.24.7
7yo 6th 21-Sep-91 Randwick Chelmsford Stakes 1600m D Beadman 58.5kg 1-Stargazer     1.36.6
7yo 1st 21-Sep-91 Canterbury Hill Stakes 1900m D Beadman 59kg 2-Just A Dancer     1.56.69
7yo 1st 5-Oct-91 Randwick Epsom Hcp 1600m D Beadman 61kg 2-Livistona Lane     1.34.7
7yo 2nd 12-Oct-91 Caulfield Caulfield Stakes 2000m D Beadman 59kg 1-Shaftesbury Avenue     1.59.3
7yo 2nd 26-Oct-91 Moonee Valley WS Cox Plate 2040m D Beadman 59kg 1-Surfer's Paradise 5-1 14 ran 2.03.8
7yo 2nd 2-Nov-91 Flemington Mackinnon Stakes 2000m D Beadman 58.5kg 1-Let's Elope      
7yo 4th 5-Nov-91 Flemington Melbourne Cup 3200m D Beadman 60kg 1-Let's Elope 20-1 24 ran 3.18.9
7yo 2nd 22-Feb-92 Randwick Apollo Stakes 1400m D Beadman 57.5kg 1-Quick Score     1.23.0
7yo 1st 15-Mar-92 Randwick Chipping Norton Stakes 1600m D Beadman 57.5kg 2-Quick Score     1.35.0
7yo 5th 28-Mar-92 Rosehill Ranvet Stakes 2000m D Beadman 58kg 1-My Eagle Eye     2.05.23
7yo 5th 11-Apr-92 Rosehill Ajax Stakes 1500m D Beadman 60kg 1-Alderson     1.29.78
7yo 6th 18-Apr-92 Randwick Doncaster Hcp 1600m D Beadman 62.5kg 1-Soho Square     1.37.5
7yo 4th 20-Apr-92 Randwick Queen Elizabeth Stakes 2000m D Beadman 58kg 1-Rough Habit     2.03.8
8yo 2nd 22-Aug-92 Warwick Warwick Stakes 1400m C Munce 58.5kg 1-Shaftesbury Avenue     1.23.8
8yo 3rd 5-Sep-92 Randwick Chelmsford Stakes 1600m C Munce 58.5kg 1-Dr Grace     1.36.2
8yo 2nd 19-Sep-92 Rosehill Hill Stakes 1900m C Munce 59kg 1-Muirfield Village     1.55.69
8yo 4th 3-Oct-92 Randwick Epsom Hcp 1600m C Munce 61.5kg 1-Kinjite     1.34.1
8yo 1st 11-Oct-92 Canberra Canberra Cup 2400m L Dittman 58kg 2-Galilei      
8yo 1st 24-Oct-92 Moonee Valley WS Cox Plate 2040m G Hall 59kg 2-Kinjite 16-1 14 ran 2.05.5
8yo 15th 3-Nov-92 Flemington Melbourne Cup 3200m L Dittman 59kg 1-Subzero 25-1 21 ran 3.24.7

 

STARTS : 75 (21 WINS, 24 2NDS, 8 3RDS, 22 UNPLACED)

GROUP 1 WINS : 10 (races that are currently Group 1)

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19 minutes ago, VC! said:

13 Ming Dynasty 

MING DYNASTY (AUS) 1973                                 
76 starts, 17 wins (6 x Group 1), 12 seconds and 9 thirds.  Win % 22.4, Place % 50.0.                                  
                                 
Career earnings were AUD 547,825                                 
As my stakewinnings total varies slightly from other figures I have seen I have included each race's earnings at the end of each race result.                                  
Bloodhound has / had a total of $463,538.  The differences are as follows:  Bloodhound understates by $400 earnings from the 1976 AJC Summer Cup omitting the $400 trophy. Bloodhound understates by $83,887 earnings from the 1980 Caulfield Cup (first prize was $135,000 inc $5,000 trophy, not $51,113).                                 
The 1983 Miller's Guide reported earnings of $547,825.                                 
Ming Dynasty's Wikipedia entry has no earnings figure.                                  
Peter Pring (Major Australian races and Racehorses 1960-1980) sets out his complete record up to the end of the 1979-80 season.  He omitted prizemoney of $1,000 for Ming's fifth placing in the  1978 Sydney Cup.                                 
                                 
                                 
TWO YEARS:  1975 -1976  Starts 6: 1-2-2-1                                 
                                 
3rd-13   18/02/1976.   Lg hd x 1.5L   Canterbury, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC 2nd Lilyfield Maiden Hcp   1000m.   53.5kg   1.01.1.   Good, 5/1.   Bernard 52 5/1 1st   Marjie's Boy 54.5 7/4F 2nd   AUD 400
1st-14   8/03/1976.   10L x 1.5L   Canterbury, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC 3rd Sans Souci Hcp   Abt. 1200m.   54kg   1.14.4.   Good, 2/1.   Donati's Comet 51 5/1 2nd   King's Caper's 52 7/4F 7th   AUD 2,500
6th-15   17/03/1976.   3L x nk    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Bantry Bay Hcp (2nd Division)   1400m.   56.5kg   1.26.7.   Good   Glen Vain 51.5 6/4F 1st   Manerko 51 33/1 2nd   AUD 0
2nd-16   10/04/1976.   ½ nk x 1.75L    Warwick Farm, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Liverpool Festival Hcp (1st Division)   1400m.   54kg   1.25.9.   Good, 6/4F.   Glen Vain 56 13/4 1st   Dublin Express 51 5/2 3rd   AUD 1,070
3rd-12   21/04/1976.   Lg hd x 2L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Fernhill Hcp   1600m.   55.5kg   1.37.2.   Good, 7/4F.   Willowy 50 7/2 1st   Forte 48.5 7/2 2nd   AUD 630
2nd-19   22/05/1976.   3L x sht hd   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC St. Leonard's Hcp   1400m.   57kg   1.24.5.   Good, 4/1.   Duke Ellington 52.5 9/1 1st   Always's Welcome 54.5 2/1F 4th   AUD 1,300
                                 
THREE YEARS:  1976-1977  Starts 16: 6-3-3-4                                  
                                 
1st-11   4/09/1976.   Sht hd x 3.5L   Canterbury, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC Kilshery Graduation Stakes (2nd Division)   1280m.   53kg   1.17.1.   Good, 3/1.   Tattenham Lad 50 6/4F2nd   Donati's Comet 51.5 10/1 3rd   AUD 4,000
9th-19   18/09/1976.   2.75L x 1.25L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC Hydrogen Graduation Stakes   1400m.   55.5kg   1.23.6.   Good   Blockbuster 53 6/1 1st   Tattenham Lad 50 9/2 2nd   AUD 0
2nd-13   2/10/1976.    ½ nk x 3L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Trial Stakes   2000m.   50.5kg   2.05.5   Good, 11/2.   Stadium Star 54.5 3/1 1st   Triumphant 54 5/2F 3rd   AUD 1,330
1st-16   23/10/1976.   3.5L x lg nk   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC Colyton Graduation Stakes   2000m.   55.5kg   2.03.4.   Slow, 11/4.   Maybe Street 53 100/1 2nd   Hudson's Bay (NZ) 53 5/2F 3rd   AUD 4,000
3rd-14   4/11/1976.   3L x nk   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VRC Batman Hcp   2000m.   55kg   2.03.7.   Slow, 3/1F.   Opposition 53 11/2 1st    Fearella 53 20/1 2nd   AUD 800
1st-9   1/12/1976.   3L x 2L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Forestville Hcp   1600m.   50.5kg   1.35.7.   Fast, 3/1.   Dear John 51.5 7/1 2nd   Sniff 50.5 6/4F 4th   AUD 2,950
1st-8   18/12/1976.   1.25L x 3L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC December Hcp   2000m.   52kg   2.01.5.   Good, 5/4F.   Maddox Lane 51 11/2 2nd   Cool Classic 48.5 16/1 3rd   AUD 4,265
1st-10   27/12/1976.   0.5L x 1.25L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Summer Cup   2400m.   54kg   2.29.1.   Good, 3/1.   Lazy Pat 53 11/4F 2nd   Purple Pride 50 6/1 3rd   AUD 8,200
                                 
2nd-6    1/01/1977.   1.75L x 5L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Tattersall's Club Tattersall's Club Cup   2400m.   55kg   2.28.9.   Good 9/4EF   Lazy Pat 52 9/4EF 1st   Maddox Lane 50.5 7/1 3rd   AUD 1,930
4th-11   19/02/1977.   1.5L x 0.5L   Canterbury, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC Frederick Clissold Hcp   1200m.   54.5kg   1.10.2.   Good, 50/1.   Tiger Town 52 5/2F 1st   Makara 51 15/4 2nd   AUD 400
4th-6   12/03/1977.   1.5L x 1.75L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC Phar Lap Stakes   1500m.   54kg   1.31.1.   Good, 9/4.   Blockbuster 54 4/5F 1st   Salamander 54 4/1 2nd   AUD 500
1st-12   26/03/1977.   Hd x sht ½ hd   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC Tulloch 3YO Stakes   1850m.   54kg   1.53.5.   Fast, 7/1.   Leonotis 54 20/1 2nd   Salamander 54 9/4F 4th   AUD 6,200
3rd-12   9/04/1977.   1L x ½ nk    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Australasian Champion Stakes   2000m.   54kg   2.03.5.   Fast, 14/1.   Sir Silver Lad (NZ) 54 1st   Salamander 54 7/1 2nd   AUD 8,000
7th-12   13/04/1977.   1.5L x 1.5L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC All-Aged Stakes   1600m.   54.5kg   1.34.0.   Fast,    Dalrello 57.5 7/4F 1st   Manawapoi 57.5 12/1 2nd   AUD 0
2nd-9   14/05/1977.   7L x 0.75L   Doomben, Brisbane, QLD, AUS   BATC Clive Uhr Quality Hcp   2020m.   55.5kg   2.04.1.   Good, 2/1.   Sir Serene 49.5 8/11F 1st   Miner's Inn 49.5 10/1 3rd   AUD 1,600
3rd-11   21/05/1977.   2L x 2L   Eagle Farm, Brisbane, QLD, AUS   QTC Grand Prix Stakes   2200m.   55.5kg   2.19.2.   Slow, 4/1.   Surround 55.5 5/4F 1st   Miner's Inn 53 33/1 q2nd   AUD 2,000
                                 
FOUR YEARS:  1977-1978  Starts 21: 5-4-2-10                                 
                                 
4th-9   27/08/1977.   ½ hd x sht ½ hd   Sandown, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC Liston Stakes   1400m.   57kg   1.24.7.   Good, 50/1.   Vice Regal (NZ) 57 5/1 1st   Surround 54.5 4/5F 6th   AUD 750
1st-10   10/09/1977.   0.75L x 2L    Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VRC Craiglee Stakes   1600m.   57kg   1.38.0.   Good, 14/1.   Family of Man 57 10/9F 2nd   Silent Gift 58.5 10/1 3rd   AUD 9,750
6th-11   22/09/1977.   Sht hd x 0.25L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC Underwood Stakes   Abt 2000m.   57kg   2.00.8.   Fast, 13/2.   Denise's Joy 56.5 33/1 1st   Vice Regal (NZ) 57 11/8F 2nd   AUD 0
DH 5th-14   1/10/1977.   Nk x 0.75L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VRC Turnbull Stakes   2000m.   57.5kg   2.03.8.   Fast, 12/1.   Salamander 53 9/2 1st   Vice Regal (NZ) 57.5 9/4F 4th   AUD 0
5th-12   8/10/1977.   1.5L x 0.5L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC Toorak Hcp   1600m.   55kg   1.37.4.   Fast, 6/1.   Nunkalowe 52 8/1 1st   Desirable 56.5 5/4F 6th   AUD 0
1st-18   15/10/1977.   1.25L x sht hd   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC Caulfield Cup (G1)   2400m.   54kg   2.28.5.   Fast, 9/1.   Unaware 56.5 7/1 2nd   Family of Man 55.5 5/1EF 4th; Sir Serene 52 5/1EF 9th   AUD 91,250
11th-14   22/10/1977.   Lg nk x 1L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   MVRC W. S. Cox Plate   2050m.   57kg   2.05.3.   Good, 20/1.   Family of Man 57 10/1 1st   Luskin Star 48.5 7/4F 9th   AUD 0
8th-24   1/11/1977.   1L x 2.5L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VRC Melbourne Cup   3200m.   56kg   3.18.4 (Metric RR)   Fast, 20/1.   Gold and Black (NZ) 57 7/2F 1st   Reckless 56.5 11/2 2nd   AUD 0
                                 
6th-9   11/02/1978.   Lg nk x ½ nk   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC C.F. Orr Stakes   1400m.   57kg   1.25.6.   Slow, 25/1.   Hyperno (NZ) 57 20/1 1st   Family of Man 57 7/4 3rd   AUD 0
7th-9   25/02/1978.   Hd x lg nk   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC St. George Stakes   1800m.   57kg   1.51.6.   Fast, 10/1.   Unaware 57 14/1 1st   Opposition 57 9/10F 2nd   AUD 0
4th-10   4/03/1978.   1.25L x ½ nk   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC T S Carlyon Cup   2000m.   57.5kg   2.02.5.   Fast, 11/1.   Hyperno (NZ) 56.5 6/4F 1st   Ready O'Ready 53 8/1 2nd   AUD 1,000
1st-13   13/03/1978.   0.5L x 4L    Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VRC Australian Cup (G1)   2000m.   58kg   2.02.6.   Good, 7/2F.   Crepellox (NZ) 51 7/1 2nd   Carl's Gift 48.5 12/1 3rd   AUD 33,900
1st-6   25/03/1978.   4L x 5L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Autumn Stakes   2000m.   57kg   2.09.1.   Slow, 6/4.   Hyperno (NZ) 57 5/4F 2nd   Tod Bay 58 10/1 3rd   AUD 9,850
5th-15   27/03/1978.   4L x 0.5L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Sydney Cup   3200m.   58kg   3.27.9.   Slow, 9/1.   My Good Man 60 7/1 1st   Hyperno 49.5 3/1F 6th    AUD 1,000
1st-6   1/04/1978.   13L x nk    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Queen Elizabeth Stakes (G1)   2400m.   57kg   2.43.5.   Heavy, 2/1EF.   Unaware 57 11/2 2nd   Belmura Lad (NZ) 52.5 2/1EF 3rd   AUD 13,000
2nd-10   13/05/1978.   2.25L x 0.5L   Doomben, Brisbane, QLD, AUS   BATC Handicap   1610m.   60.5kg   1.39.0.   Good, 5/2.   Sweet Bye 47 20/1 1st   Yo Tambien 54 9/4F 4th   AUD 800
2nd-7   20/05/1978.   Sht ½ hd x 4L   Eagle Farm, Brisbane, QLD, AUS   QTC P. J. O'Shea Stakes   2200m.   57kg   2.25.7.   Good, 1/3F.   Tod Bay 57.5 9/2 1st   Hyatt 57 8/1 3rd   AUD 2,000
3rd-9   3/06/1978.   1.25L x 1L   Eagle Farm, Brisbane, QLD, AUS   QTC Sir Winston Churchill Stakes   2200m.   60kg   2.17.7.   Good, 4/6F.   Miner's Inn 52 4/1 1st   Shazoom 48 14/1 3rd   AUD 600
2nd-18   5/06/1978.   Sht nk x lg hd   Eagle Farm, Brisbane, QLD, AUS   QTC Brisbane Cup   3200m.   59kg   3.22.5.   Good, 16/1.   Muros 52.5 10/1 1st   Miner's Inn 50 6/1EF 6th; Hyperno 59.5 6/1EF 7th     AUD 12,000
2nd-16   24/06/1978.   0.75L x 1L   Eagle Farm, Brisbane, QLD, AUS   Tattersall's Cup   2200m.   60kg   2.14.1.   Good, 7/1.   Future Shock 54 6/1 1st   Bermadez (NZ) 51 11/2F 7th   AUD 4,000
3rd-20   8/07/1978.   0.75L x sht hd   Doomben, Brisbane, QLD, AUS   BATC Doomben Cup   2200m.   60kg   2.13.8 (CR)   Good, 4/1F.   Marceau 51 25/1 1st   Lloyd Boy 49 10/1 2nd   AUD 6,000
                                 
FIVE YEARS:  1978 -1979  Starts 7: 3-0-2-2                                 
                                 
11th-11   26/08/1978.   3L x lg hd   Warwick Farm, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Warwick Stakes   1400m.   58.5kg   1.23.3.   Good, 4/1.   Party's Pride 58.5 3/1F 1st   Ashbah 58.5 16/1 2nd   AUD 0
1st-5   9/09/1978.   1L x 6L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Tattersall's Club Chelmsford Stakes   1800m.   59kg   1.56.0.   Heavy, 13/4.   Flying Flag 52.5 5/2 2nd   Sungazer cd 46 10/9F 3rd   AUD 7,800
3rd-8   23/09/1978.   1.75L x 1.5L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC Hill Stakes   1750m.   59kg   1.46.9.   Good, 10/9F.   Marceau 57 5/4 1st   Valadero 59 20/1 2nd   AUD 2,000
1st-5   30/09/1978.   3.25L x 2.5L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Craven Plate   2000m.   59kg   2.07.8.   Slow, 1/2F.   Dungarven 57 66/1 2nd   Lavache (IRE) 59 6/1 3rd   AUD 9,850
1st-23   2/10/1978.   Hd x 1.25L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC The Metropolitan (G1)   2600m.   59.5kg   2.45.2.   Good, 13/2.   Arwon (NZ) 49 16/1 2nd   Over The Ocean (NZ) 50 7/2F    AUD 70,000
3rd-10   14/10/1978.   ½ nk x sht hd   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC Caulfield Stakes   2000m.   59kg   2.02.3.   Good, 5/1.   Lloyd Boy 57 12/1 1st   Lefroy (NZ) 57 7/4F 2nd   AUD 3,000
5th-18   21/10/1978.   Sht ½ hd x 3.5L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC Caulfield Cup   2400m.   61kg   2.27.5.   Good, 16/1.   Taksan (NZ) 52 14/1 1st   So Called (NZ) 55.5 9/4F 13th   AUD 0
                                 
SIX YEARS:  1979 -1980  Starts 14: 1-2-0-11                                 
                                 
2nd-12   4/08/1979.   5L x sht ½ hd   Victoria Park, Adelaide, SA, AUS    SAJC Straight Five Hcp   1000m.   63 cd 60kg   0.58.0.   Good, 25/1.   Mellow Tint cd 49 8/10F 1st   Outer Marker cd 48.5 40/1 3rd   AUD 1,100
2nd-17   25/08/1979.   0.5L x sht ½ hd   Sandown, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC Liston Stakes   1400m.   58.5kg   1.26.4.   Slow, 6/1.   Waitangarua (NZ) 58.5 14/1 1st   Crepellox (NZ) 58.5 4/6F 3rd   AUD 5,000
4th-5   1/09/1979.   1L x lg nk   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC Memsie Stakes   1600m.   58.5kg   1.43.3.   Heavy, 2/1.   Arbre Chene (NZ) 58.5 4/1 1st   Crepellox (NZ) 58.5 7/4F 3rd   AUD 1,250
10th-11   15/09/1979.   Hd x lg nk   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   MVRC John F Feehan Stakes   1600m.   58.5kg   1.37.6.   Good, 9/2.   Gondolier 57 7/1 1st   Arbre Chene 58.5 9/4F 3rd   AUD 0
11th-12   22/09/1979.   0.5L x hd   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC Hill Stakes   1750m.   59kg   1.47.0.   Fast, 12/1.   Imposing 57 7/4F 1st   Prince Ruling (NZ) 48.5 15/1 2nd   AUD 0
8th-21   1/10/1979.   Lg nk x nk    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Avis The Metropolitan Hcp   2600m.   60.5kg   2.42.0.   Good, 50/1.   Earthquake McGoon 51 40/1 1st   French Command (NZ) 51 5/1EF 6th, Iko 50.5 5/1EF 11th    AUD 0
10th-14   13/10/1979.   3L x 0.75L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC Caulfield Stakes   2000m.   59kg   2.04.6.   Slow, 33/1.   Mighty Kingdom 48.5 10/1 1st    Double Century 57 2/1F 7th   AUD 0
15th-18   20/10/1979.   1.5L x 0.75L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC Caulfield Cup   2400m.   59kg   2.29.9.   Good, 66/1.   Mighty Kingdom 47 10/1 1st   Double Century 57 5/1F 17th   AUD 0
11th-12   27/10/1979.   7L x 4L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   MVRC W. S. Cox Plate   2050m.   59kg   2.04.9.   Good, 50/1.   Dulcify 57 7/4F 1st   Shivaree 59 9/4 2nd   AUD 0
                                 
4th-13   9/02/1980.   2L x 2.5L   Sandown, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC C.F. Orr Stakes   1400m.   57.5kg   1.23.5.   Fast, 66/1.   Manikato 57 2/9F 1st   Hyperno 57.5 12/1 2nd   AUD 1,250
5th-11   23/02/1980.   1L x 2L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC St. George Stakes   1800m.   58kg   1.50.4.   Good, 20/1.   Minuetto 56.5 7/2 1st   Hyperno 58 7/4F 3rd   AUD 0
5th-9   1/03/1980.   Hd x 2.25L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC T S Carlyon Cup   Abt. 2000m.   57.5kg   1.59.9.   Good, 13/2.   There You Go 50.5 6/1 1st   He'll Do (NZ) 54 3/1F 2nd   AUD 0
1st-12   10/03/1980.   Sht hd x 2.25L    Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VRC Australian Cup   2000m.   58kg   2.02.1.   Good, 25/1.   Double Century 57 14/1 2nd   Shivaree (NZ) 6/4F 5th   AUD 66,000
9th-13   7/04/1980.   Sht ½ hd x 1.25L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Queen Elizabeth Randwick Stakes   2000m.   58kg   2.03.3.   Good, 7/1.   Iko 58 8/1 1st   Double Century 57 9/4F 2nd   AUD 0
                                 
SEVEN YEARS:  1980 -1981  Starts 12: 1-1-0-10                                 
                                 
6th-11   9/08/1980.   Sht hd x 2.25L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC Griffen Homes Missile Stakes   1100m.   58kg   1.04.7.   Fast, 40/1.   Macho 58 7/2 1st   High Adventure 58 6/1 2nd   AUD 0
9th-10   30/08/1980.   1L x 0.5L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC Warwick Stakes   1400m.   58.5kg   1.23.2 (RR)   Fast, 50/1.   Kingston Town 57 1/3F 1st   Blockbuster 58.5 11/1 2nd   AUD 0
2nd-4   13/09/1980.   5L x 2L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Tattersall's Club (NSW) Chelmsford Stakes   1800m.   59kg   1.49.3.   Good, 16/1.   Kingston Town 57 1/20F 1st   Argyle Morgan 59 40/1 3rd   AUD 3,600
4th-11   27/09/1980.   1.75L x 2.25L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC STC Cup   2400m.   60kg   2.29.9.   Fast, 14/1.   Kingston Town 57 1/10F 1st   Over The Ocean (NZ) 60 100/1 2nd   AUD 2,500
10th-24   6/10/1980.   2.25L x ½ hd    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   AJC The Metropolitan   2600m.   58kg   2.42.0.   Fast, 40/1.   Brindisi 5.05 40/1 1st   Sovita (NZ) 50 15/1 3rd   AUD 0
1st-17   18/10/1980.   1.25L x lg nk   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC Caulfield Cup (G1)   2400m.   58kg   2.28.7.   Fast 50/1.   Hyperno 59 5/1 2nd   Kingston Town 60 11/4F 3rd   AUD 130,000
6th-14   25/10/1980.   5L x 1L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   MVRC W S Cox Plate   2050m.   59kg   2.07.3.   Good 20/1.   Kingston Town 57 6/4F 1st   Prince Ruling 57 40/1 2nd   AUD 0
17th-22   4/11/1980.   1.5L x 2L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VRC Melbourne Cup   3200m.   58kg   3.19.8.   Fast 12/1   Beldale Ball 49.5 11/1 1st   Hyperno 58.5 3/1F 7th   AUD 0
                                 
7th-9   7/02/1981.   Hd x 2.25L   Sandown, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC C.F. Orr Stakes   1400m.   57.5kg   1.24.1.   Good, 66/1.   Manikato 57.5 4/11F 1st   My Brown Jug (NZ) 57 20/1 2nd   AUD 0
4th-5   14/02/1981.   DH x 4L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VATC St. George Stakes   1800m.   58kg   1.50.1.   Fast, 20/1.   Hyperno (NZ) 58 11/8F 1st   My Brown Jug (NZ) 57 13/8 DH 1st   AUD 1,500
8th-9   28/02/1981.   ½ hd x 0.5L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VRC Blamey Quality   1600m.   58.5kg   1.36.4.   Fast, 50/1.   Hyperno (NZ) 58.5 6/1 1st   My Brown Jug (NZ) 56.5 2/1F 2nd   AUD 0
6th-10   7/03/1981.   2L x 0.75L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VRC Australian Cup   2000m.   58kg   2.04.3.   Fast, 12/1.   Hyperno (NZ) 58 11/8F 1st   Turf Ruler (NZ) 58 12/1 2nd   AUD 0
 
 

 

 

 
Everybody's favourite grey was Ming 

Two Caulfield Cups, two Australian Cups, a memorable Metrop, a QE2 and a Craiglee.

Was a very frustrating horse for punters at 6 and 7 - only two wins but what wins they were. Australian Cup beating Double Century and Shivaree, then beat Hyperno and Kingston Town in the Caulfield Cup aged 7. Bolted in.

Was out at Randwick the day he lumped 59.5 kg to just hold off Arwon with 49 kg in the Metrop - Arwon went on to win the Melbourne Cup that year. Will never forget it. The crowd went beserk as he returned to scale.

Bart tells the story in his book where Ming became a clerk of the course horse at Randwick. But one day a stablehand came in and said there was a strange grey horse in one of the stables - it was Ming who had escaped and come home to Leilani Lodge!
 
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On 9/19/2019 at 8:50 AM, Hesi said:

Going to have to get a lot tougher.

These 3 iconic Aus horses, between them had almost 200 starts, and despite 7 attempts, none ever won a MC

Tough horses compared to the light campaigns of most of today's mob

Who are they

13.  Well tried with over 70 starts, including 4 attempts at the Caulfield Cup, 2 attempts at the MC.  Won a lot of major G1 cups, even beat the MC winner of that year in a race a month before the cup, carrying 10.5 kg more.  Developed a homing pigeon tendency when retired

14.  Again, over 70 starts, 3 MC attempts for no wins, in fact their last race was in the MC.  Quite a bit of a different career, as they had no group race starts at 3 years, and only one of those races was at 2000m, the rest mainly being in the sprinter/miler range.

15.  Over 40 starts, with a more than 50% win record.  Raced in the MC as a 3 year old and a 4 year old, and not even close.  Unbeaten as a 5 year old.  Great name

Still to go

The better than 50% win record refers to just the Aus starts..............and still a great name, almost in the same league as Silver Knight

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