mardigras Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Te Akau Monday Update – Te Akau Racing Supposedly, everyone loses by having Opie Bosson out for Trentham. The Wellington Racing Club loses New Zealand’s star jockey on one of its best and highest profile race days of the year. True, but is of little significance imo. The Wellington public and on course attendees do not experience New Zealand’s most successful Group 1 rider in action. Again, of little significance. I certianly have never gone to the races to witness a specific jockey ride. The owners miss out on having the top rider on their wonderful mare. How does that make them lose? Are they not starting the horse? She has the same chance with or without Bosson - even with Chris Dell. The mare herself loses her pilot for a crucial Group 1, that can add huge residual value to her. How does that make her lose? Is she not capable of winning without Bosson? Odd thing to suggest. The industry and TAB lose too as many punters follow Opie. And many punters don't follow him. It's a big stretch to suggest he increases the net revenue from punters. Firstly, if he is so great, surely he will win races. If he wins races, surely the TAB will be losers on those horses in fixed odds markets. Remind me again of how the industry lose and the TAB lose if he doesn't ride. Ellis as usual, is showing his true colours. They're not tangerine coloured though. No wonder the industry is in strife when someone builds up a single person as being such a need to the industry. Perhaps Bosson needs to think about these things himself before he makes an error in judgement. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 48 minutes ago, mardigras said: Again, of little significance. I certianly have never gone to the races to witness a specific jockey ride. I have to admit I have When I was young I went to Ellerslie to watch a specific jockey ride, I think he rode something like 4 winners and a second from 6 rides, he was latter done for tax fraud 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, VC! said: I have to admit I have When I was young I went to Ellerslie to watch a specific jockey ride, I think he rode something like 4 winners and a second from 6 rides, he was latter done for tax fraud Arbre Chene etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, mardigras said: Arbre Chene etc? Thats the one I think thats the one and only time I've gone to the races because a jockey was riding, I think my parents were the influential factor that day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, VC! said: Thats the one I think thats the one and only time I've gone to the races because a jockey was riding, I think my parents were the influential factor that day Between you and me, I think there is possibly a tiny difference between him and Bosson. Actually, the win mentioned was a pretty good ride. That was patience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, VC! said: Thats the one I think thats the one and only time I've gone to the races because a jockey was riding, I think my parents were the influential factor that day Those international races were great. Remember Jesus 'Bong' Guce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, pete said: Those international races were great. Remember Jesus 'Bong' Guce? I can't say Jesus Bong Guce rings a bell, was he a jockey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, VC! said: I have to admit I have When I was young I went to Ellerslie to watch a specific jockey ride, I think he rode something like 4 winners and a second from 6 rides, he was latter done for tax fraud Went to Epsom once to watch a specific jockey ride. He was later also done for tax fraud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, VC! said: I have to admit I have When I was young I went to Ellerslie to watch a specific jockey ride, I think he rode something like 4 winners and a second from 6 rides, he was latter done for tax fraud 4 minutes ago, curious said: Went to Epsom once to watch a specific jockey ride. He was later also done for tax fraud. If someone went to the races to watch Bosson ride - my 1st pick would be his mother. I'm struggling to come up with a second pick. I've been to the races and seen Dettori and Moore in the NH, but I wouldn't go to the races because of them. (They actually both won races at Royal Ascot when I was there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, mardigras said: If someone went to the races to watch Bosson ride - my 1st pick would be his mother. I'm struggling to come up with a second pick. Emily?😍 David Ellis?🤑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, mardigras said: Te Akau Monday Update – Te Akau Racing Supposedly, everyone loses by having Opie Bosson out for Trentham. The Wellington Racing Club loses New Zealand’s star jockey on one of its best and highest profile race days of the year. True, but is of little significance imo. The Wellington public and on course attendees do not experience New Zealand’s most successful Group 1 rider in action. Again, of little significance. I certianly have never gone to the races to witness a specific jockey ride. The owners miss out on having the top rider on their wonderful mare. How does that make them lose? Are they not starting the horse? She has the same chance with or without Bosson - even with Chris Dell. The mare herself loses her pilot for a crucial Group 1, that can add huge residual value to her. How does that make her lose? Is she not capable of winning without Bosson? Odd thing to suggest. The industry and TAB lose too as many punters follow Opie. And many punters don't follow him. It's a big stretch to suggest he increases the net revenue from punters. Firstly, if he is so great, surely he will win races. If he wins races, surely the TAB will be losers on those horses in fixed odds markets. Remind me again of how the industry lose and the TAB lose if he doesn't ride. Ellis as usual, is showing his true colours. They're not tangerine coloured though. No wonder the industry is in strife when someone builds up a single person as being such a need to the industry. Perhaps Bosson needs to think about these things himself before he makes an error in judgement. ELITE owner defending an ELITE jockey who often rides for an ELITE trainer who trains for an ELITE group of owners. These socalled giants of the industry have too much say. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, VC! said: Emily?😍 I thought she would have first hand experience of his riding skills 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, VC! said: I can't say Jesus Bong Guce rings a bell, was he a jockey? 'Bong' was his nickname. He was a champion Filipino jockey. I think he rode in the same race Lester won. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, mardigras said: Te Akau Monday Update – Te Akau Racing Supposedly, everyone loses by having Opie Bosson out for Trentham. The Wellington Racing Club loses New Zealand’s star jockey on one of its best and highest profile race days of the year. True, but is of little significance imo. The Wellington public and on course attendees do not experience New Zealand’s most successful Group 1 rider in action. Again, of little significance. I certianly have never gone to the races to witness a specific jockey ride. The owners miss out on having the top rider on their wonderful mare. How does that make them lose? Are they not starting the horse? She has the same chance with or without Bosson - even with Chris Dell. The mare herself loses her pilot for a crucial Group 1, that can add huge residual value to her. How does that make her lose? Is she not capable of winning without Bosson? Odd thing to suggest. The industry and TAB lose too as many punters follow Opie. And many punters don't follow him. It's a big stretch to suggest he increases the net revenue from punters. Firstly, if he is so great, surely he will win races. If he wins races, surely the TAB will be losers on those horses in fixed odds markets. Remind me again of how the industry lose and the TAB lose if he doesn't ride. Ellis as usual, is showing his true colours. They're not tangerine coloured though. No wonder the industry is in strife when someone builds up a single person as being such a need to the industry. Perhaps Bosson needs to think about these things himself before he makes an error in judgement. I suppose the simple answer is Don't Start Her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, mardigras said: Te Akau Monday Update – Te Akau Racing Supposedly, everyone loses by having Opie Bosson out for Trentham. The Wellington Racing Club loses New Zealand’s star jockey on one of its best and highest profile race days of the year. True, but is of little significance imo. The Wellington public and on course attendees do not experience New Zealand’s most successful Group 1 rider in action. Again, of little significance. I certianly have never gone to the races to witness a specific jockey ride. The owners miss out on having the top rider on their wonderful mare. How does that make them lose? Are they not starting the horse? She has the same chance with or without Bosson - even with Chris Dell. The mare herself loses her pilot for a crucial Group 1, that can add huge residual value to her. How does that make her lose? Is she not capable of winning without Bosson? Odd thing to suggest. The industry and TAB lose too as many punters follow Opie. And many punters don't follow him. It's a big stretch to suggest he increases the net revenue from punters. Firstly, if he is so great, surely he will win races. If he wins races, surely the TAB will be losers on those horses in fixed odds markets. Remind me again of how the industry lose and the TAB lose if he doesn't ride. Ellis as usual, is showing his true colours. They're not tangerine coloured though. No wonder the industry is in strife when someone builds up a single person as being such a need to the industry. Perhaps Bosson needs to think about these things himself before he makes an error in judgement. What a load of bollocks, this is starting to look like the Dorkovic saga. If you have money and power you think you can manipulate the system. Piss off Ellis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Get a judicial review like you did last time Ellis....and failed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Yes it appears the judiciary are unaware of the new 'Opie rule'. He mustn't be suspended when he is due to ride any Ellis horse in a G1. On the other hand the penalty seems rather inconsistent and excessive compared to others of its type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Is there a process for challenging a decision that you don't agree with, other than splurging out all over social media, rule of the jungle etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 All those that think Ellis and Te Akau are good for the industry, think again, this is an example of why they are not If he does not agree with what is happening, wants it done his way etc etc, then he will use his money power and influence to try and get the result he wants, a result that is usually to the benefit of Te Akau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gospel Of Judas said: Better not say too many bad things about Ellis his mate from BOAY will not be happy!. Say be why certain Owner from there outed me. You don't have to worry about that sort of thing here. Just don't post anything that can't be backed up with factual evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Gospel Of Judas said: Better not say too many bad things about Ellis his mate from BOAY will not be happy!. Say be why certain Owner from there outed me. First statement is opinion Gospel Second is fact, by virtue of what he is doing and has said on social media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Are there any horse sales coming up? - He likes to be in the spotlight when there are - you know any marketing exposure is good 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Its Opie's fourth breach of the whip rule in 9 weeks. It seems a very fair penalty given the circumstances. Opie reminds me of the Devo song from my younger days "Whip It, Whip It Good " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wilfred Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Gospel Of Judas said: Better not say too many bad things about Ellis his mate from BOAY will not be happy!. Say be why certain Owner from there outed me. Why are you always going on about what happens on another site? Who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Looking at the video, it was an over confident crap ride on the Perfect Pink by the over rated Bosson. Ellis should be lambasting him for the ride, not coming out with some of the garbage he is. This is the Opie Bosson that cannot get a 1.20 then 1.30 shot(Time Flies) home for Te Akau Shows how incestuous racing is in NZ. In Aus, Bosson would have been pilloried for the ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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