Hesi Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 No doubt another Bosson/TA benefit BGP Punters Club will be there stuffing the prices on the faves and getting special consideration for doing so. Never mind will improve the prices on the other runners Opens with a 7 horse 110,000 race, where are all the stayers A very average Concorde sprint, the race developed by Avondale and pinched by Ellerslie Big impact no doubt on betting figs for the Trentham meeting, which now has to compete, as what big Dave wants, big Dave gets. Those Wellington fields are far better wagering options You'll be there Pete??, in your latest designer garb, drinking champers with all the lovely chicky birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, Hesi said: No doubt another Bosson/TA benefit BGP Punters Club will be there stuffing the prices on the faves and getting special consideration for doing so. Never mind will improve the prices on the other runners Opens with a 7 horse 110,000 race, where are all the stayers A very average Concorde sprint, the race developed by Avondale and pinched by Ellerslie Big impact no doubt on betting figs for the Trentham meeting, which now has to compete, as what big Dave wants, big Dave gets. Those Wellington fields are far better wagering options You'll be there Pete??, in your latest designer garb, drinking champers with all the lovely chicky birds Not me mate a. They don't let slobs with shorts, t shirt and jandals in b. I don't drink alcohol any more c. The only chicky bird I know is sitting in the freezer I also think the Bergerson horse might break the benefit this year. She looks special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 Designer shorts, designer t shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, Hesi said: Designer shorts, designer t shirt? Nah too wanky for a Wellsford boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Sophisticardo has drawn wide, yet again !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Trader Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 3:39 PM, Gospel Of Judas said: What about all the free benefits use get when first started BGP from Betfair.. Notice never ever disclosed who gets all of those benefits, what puts me off joining BGP. What free benefits were those mate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buller Rep Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 The bit that annoys me is that they destroyed the fabric of the Wellington Cup Carnival for this wank fest. BGP is of the same ilk. Guess I am just a sad old fart who was at least able to participate through the the wonderful 80’s and 90’s of NZ racing 😀 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 Anyone game to run a pretend punters club on here, once the final figure is known. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Hesi said: Anyone game to run a pretend punters club on here, once the final figure is known. It isn't a meeting I will be having an actual bet on - I don't like the value overall. But if I was having to do this, this is where I would start (taking some guidance also from barry's post). Might not even get a single dividend from this lot. R1 #6 Even Chance $25k @10 R1 #2 Sir Nate $15k @10 ($40k) R2 #6 Les Crayeres $25k @15 R2 #9 Vernazza $10k @15 R2 #12 Lookseasy $10k EW ($20k) @31/6 ($55k) R3 #5 Wewillrock $10k EW ($20k) @9/2.7 ($20k) R4 #2 Mascarinto $10k @21 R4 #3 Sacred Satono $10k @15 R4 #5 Lord Cosmos $15k EW ($30k) @26/5.5 ($50k) R5 #4 Dragon Leap $30k EW ($60k) @9/2.7 R5 #6 Familia $20k @14 R5 #8 Riding The Wave $15k EW ($30k) @31/6 ($110k) R6 #2 Tutukaka $20k @15 R6 #6 Turn The Ace $5k EW ($10k) @51/8 R6 #13 Achieve $10k EW ($20k) @41/7 R6 #19 Riverplate $25k EW ($50k) @21/4.8 (using imaginery $50k bonus bet) ($100k) Total ($375k) Rest during the day BGP Interim total $562k including $50k bonus bet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 Excellent Mardi, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I'll have a crack. Each $150,000 to finish in top 4. Race 2: No.9, Vernazza. @ $2.70. Race 3: No.6, Bonny Lass. @ $1.50. Race 5: No.10. Romantic Lady. @ $4.00. Race 6: No.3. Sophisticardo. @ $3.60. Cheers. Robert. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Gospel Of Judas said: Bonus Bets and other financial benefits. I didn't think they even had a betfair account. Only external account I had heard about was Ladbrokes. Have you got a report on where it shows this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Gospel Of Judas said: Believe when first started was with Betfair. Most people betting with betfair can get promo bets - BGP would be miniscule on betfair - so I doubt they would get anything that wasn't available to most. I used to get some promo offers years back. It's marketing. There is no point betting such as the punters club today with betfair. You wouldn't get the bets on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Hoping the BGP runner in the last places. Shit that will be funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown fox Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 How are they going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, brown fox said: How are they going? Balance $837k. Bet already on #15 to place to return $1m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Doing ok. Good luck with Miss Ella in the last to make their day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I am pleased for BGP because betting is so vital to the success of racing. I find it ironic that BGP make a huge difference to this race meeting when 15 plus years ago Auckland had a CEO (how can we forget that fool) Weaver. As well as stuffing up the racing calendar, he declared that punters with best bets hanging out of their pockets could effectively piss off as he was looking for Posers and A Listers who could look good for selfies whilst holding wine glasses. He thought they could make more money that way. Well the punters did piss off, the beautiful people got tired of selfies and the Auckland Cup on a Wednesday was down to the barmen and a few posers. Now with the exception of this meeting Auckland needs to "rent a crowd' In addition NZTR should not be subsidising these Million dollar races to the tune of $500k plus. For all the hooplah of last evening, it would be the industry's most expensive day. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bloke said: In addition NZTR should not be subsidising these Million dollar races to the tune of $500k plus. For all the hooplah of last evening, it would be the industry's most expensive day. Yep, it is a costly day - as you say, why would the industry fund sales restricted races. Stupidity. BGP has its place - but the issue is that other punters simply can't get the bets on they are allowed to. Now they have been losers overall. But if the last race had come in for them last night, they may have more than squared that ledger. I wonder if the TAB would have looked at restricting them if that had happened. We won't know of course, and the TAB wants to keep the BGP punters themselves going. It would be interesting to know how much additional betting was done by BGP members during that meeting. Certainly, the tote pools were pathetic. BGP bets on some races was as high as the entire commingled win and place tote pools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, Bloke said: I am pleased for BGP because betting is so vital to the success of racing. I find it ironic that BGP make a huge difference to this race meeting when 15 plus years ago Auckland had a CEO (how can we forget that fool) Weaver. As well as stuffing up the racing calendar, he declared that punters with best bets hanging out of their pockets could effectively piss off as he was looking for Posers and A Listers who could look good for selfies whilst holding wine glasses. He thought they could make more money that way. Well the punters did piss off, the beautiful people got tired of selfies and the Auckland Cup on a Wednesday was down to the barmen and a few posers. Now with the exception of this meeting Auckland needs to "rent a crowd' In addition NZTR should not be subsidising these Million dollar races to the tune of $500k plus. For all the hooplah of last evening, it would be the industry's most expensive day. I don't understand why Ellerslie can't have a blend of both, at all of it's big race days, including Karaka. Open up the midfield to picnics and boot parties. I suppose that would not be a good look, all the gentry having to look down on the hoi polloi. They need to remember where they came from.. I'll never forget the phrase some wag on RC used about Chris Weaver and his wrecking of the Auckland carnival. Now off selling mung beans and quinoa for his wife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addington Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) I thought the day was a big success and the racing top class. Had younger friends who bought into syndicates that had runners in big races. They all flew up and spent heaps had a great time and now have others wanting to join in next purchase. The surprising thing is you would never see any of them going to Riccarton or Addington on a regular basis if at all.. Yet they are new blood and the future as they replace ageing owners and have required disposable income. Say what you like about Te Akau and D Ellis but like Pitmans in South without them TB racing would be worse off by a long way. Edited January 22, 2022 by Addington 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 They used to get 10,000 on the infield at Ellerslie, huge atmosphere. It wasn't broke then, but for some reason they tried to fix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 Ellerslie have thumbed their nose at a huge sector of the potential market with their upmarket positioning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 Those representative of the 10,000 that used to go along to the infield on Boxing Day and NYD, Labour and National voters who would come with a lot more than $2 in their pocket. By the way, they didn't choose to stop coming, Ellerslie closed the infield so they couldn't come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 Hard boiled like you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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