Sir Gallivant Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Three part question. Name the horse ? What did he do ? Name the Trainer ? CLUES : Won 11 races. 6 were special. All six are still run for today. 1 was a listed Race era pre 1980's one more clue to come if its to vague and hard 😁 (has a special meaning for me) not owned by me or any of my family. Just a special relevance to a member of my family.) Confused so am I 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Sir, You should get this question on "who wants to be a millionaire." It would stop them in their tracks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Gallivant Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, slam dunk said: Sir, You should get this question on "who wants to be a millionaire." It would stop them in their tracks. What too obscure ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sir Gallivant said: What too obscure ? Is the trainer still training today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Gallivant Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, ngakonui grass said: Is the trainer still training today? no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Wild guess Was the listed race run at Te Rapa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Gallivant Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, ngakonui grass said: Wild guess Was the listed race run at Te Rapa. no trentham , horse was owned by a lady only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Was it Frederick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Gallivant Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Bloke said: Was it Frederick YES 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Blue Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, Sir Gallivant said: YES 😁 That's really funny Rex. By co-incidence one of the best standardbreds I ever had was named Frederick. Can't find a decent photo but here he is 4th (number 1 ) in the Great Northern Derby at Alexandra Park during the 1980's. I took him up to Brisbane once where he ran 4th in 1.55 to the local Champion 'Wondai's Mate' . a super quick time for those days in the 80's.. a freak race. Thankfully I got him for a while to mess around with in Queensland after that, and is near my favourite horse of all time !!! (along with Lightning Blue) 'FREDERICK' the great. ? Must be something in the name to make them very special? . gods blessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Well when I was a teenager I had a girlfriend (Oh yes in the days of the mini skirt) who lived in Belmont which is in the hills above Lower Hutt. At the time there were some semi rural properties and my girl friend's neighbour had a few horses on the property and I recall that one was later named Frederick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Okay, that was short and sweet so try this: What is happening here ? Name: a. The Horse and trainer b. The race and year c. The winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1971, Wellington Steeple Chase, Final Luca, winner Teak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 56 minutes ago, Bloke said: Was it Frederick by my all time favourite sire - Better Honey 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bloke said: 1971, Wellington Steeple Chase, Final Luca, winner Teak Very good, bloke. Have to make these harder Final Luca's trainer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Gallivant Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 Frederik was my Dad's name .... in 1971 Frederik the horse won the LISTED PARLIAMENTARY HANDICAP and followed that up with two wins in the grand national hurdles , won the hawkes bay hurdles the wellington steeplechase and the McGregor Grant steeplechase. Mrs B. Marsden was the owner ...... Eroll Skelton the trainer and WD Skelton rode him to win the Parliamentry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I recall another horse called Frisky Fred that ran about the same time. It was a front runner who occasionally held on to win. I recall backing it when it led all the way at very long odds, I think ridden by Rodney Heslop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, Sir Gallivant said: Frederik was my Dad's name .... in 1971 Frederik the horse won the LISTED PARLIAMENTARY HANDICAP and followed that up with two wins in the grand national hurdles , won the hawkes bay hurdles the wellington steeplechase and the McGregor Grant steeplechase. Mrs B. Marsden was the owner ...... Eroll Skelton the trainer and WD Skelton rode him to win the Parliamentry. Rex, her name was Maureen Madsen and she had also owned Rose Mellay who won the Auckland Cup. She was quite a stunning-looking woman to boot as well as a highly successful owner ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, PWJ said: Final Luca's trainer ? Old age problem - name not coming to me but was it something like Beattie? Maybe the same guy that Larry Cassidy was apprenticed to at Awapuni. Jockey in photo R Lammas? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Back to Frederik - didn't Maureen Madsen train him herself at one stage? Also remember Frisky Fred - Alan Kaye at awapuni trained and often ridden by Reg King. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, von Smallhaussen said: Back to Frederik - didn't Maureen Madsen train him herself at one stage? Also remember Frisky Fred - Alan Kaye at awapuni trained and often ridden by Reg King. Reg King !! I'd forgotten about Reg !! Maureen was given Frederik as a wedding present by her husband Bent. Not sure if she trained him but it's quite possible. She certainly trained Rose Mellay when she defeated the Auckland Cup field by 8 lengths which contained Battle Heights, Wiremu, Curly wave, Sharda, Hi-Bing, Fort Hagen & Simon de Montfort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, von Smallhaussen said: Old age problem - name not coming to me but was it something like Beattie? Maybe the same guy that Larry Cassidy was apprenticed to at Awapuni. Jockey in photo R Lammas? Barney Lumsden, real tough old character from Foxton. His best horses were probably Rough Planet, Dural and Kiora Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, PWJ said: Reg King !! I'd forgotten about Reg !! Maureen was given Frederik as a wedding present by her husband Bent. Not sure if she trained him but it's quite possible. She certainly trained Rose Mellay when she defeated the Auckland Cup field by 8 lengths which contained Battle Heights, Wiremu, Curly wave, Sharda, Hi-Bing, Fort Hagen & Simon de Montfort Hi Peter. Can you remember the lady who trained Sailing Home? Did Barney Lumsden train Bally Castle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Double R said: Hi Peter. Can you remember the lady who trained Sailing Home? Did Barney Lumsden train Bally Castle? Sailing Home was trained by Joyce Edgar-Jones Bally Castle from memory was trained at Wanganui?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Pretty sure Ballycastle was trained by Brian Elliott from Wanganui or Bulls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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