Hesi Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Thanks Ian, yes that is pretty bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Gallivant Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 may I ask the ? why defer his starting penalty from the 29th and not from the 15th ..... oh silly me ..... te akau ..... labour weekend ..... riccarton BIG GROUP RACING ETC ETC how is this fair to the other jockeys makes my blood boil at times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Got your dates wrong Rex, the Spring carnival at Ricc starts Nov 5. He effectively misses out on what is left of all the big Spring racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Gallivant Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, Hesi said: Got your dates wrong Rex, the Spring carnival at Ricc starts Nov 5. He effectively misses out on what is left of all the big Spring racing OOOOPS First try on chat and I mess up 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Albys happy., if no one else is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Michael Guerin seems to have got hold of the head on video of the incident https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/300714271/four-jockeys-left-on-racetrack-after-chaotic-fall-at-hastings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Michael Guerin is a muppet to...said Opie corrects his mount...thats BS if he had done that there was no people falling of...trying to be PC and protect the protected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Tries to correct way too late Bosson.rtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown fox Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Would love to have been a fly on the wall next time he ran into Lisa Allpress and others in the Jocks room😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taniwha99 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 18 hours ago, mardigras said: You lot are so harsh. He's the best jockey we have and makes the difference between winning and losing. Best to turn the page and move on. Just my opinion ..... Opie Bosson being the most highly experience jockey , should have corrected his mount ,when it was drifting towards the fence and onto the inner 2 horses ...There is no shame in coming 2nd and possibly avoiding a catstrophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 If you look at the last 2 frames, when he has supposedly tried to correct, he is actually closer to the running rail in the last frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Weigh In, with comment about this topic. Guerin seems to be making excuses for Bosson, none of which has any relevance. Emily quite correctly avoided any comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) Guerin does not have a clue he actually thought Opie was hard done by...and he said he thought Opie tried to straighten his mount...he had 200 meters before the winning post to do that and did nothing only had one thing on his mind...winning... get rid of Guerin and get Luke back... Edited October 17, 2022 by RJB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Let's call it a compromise then. 4 jockeys put on the deck, all potentially could have suffered serious injuries, due to reckless riding. So, 6 weeks times 4 equals 24 weeks, or 6 months. I'm surprised the Rosehill incident, was only worth 6 weeks, such is precedent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Aussie decision was poor too...but both riders are protected species...just Imagine if Wiremu Pinn had done this ...now that would of been different 100% for certain.Rules for some and rules for others...its not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, barryb said: Bit of a stretch to suggest he got different treatment I think. Thats imagined rather than real. Deal in facts rather than emotion. Fact is he is protected and should have got more time for the interference he foley caused...we can agree to disagree on that no emotion involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 19 hours ago, Hesi said: Out of interest, how do you know that? She can be seen doing it. The head-on shown on Weigh In. Appalling display from Opie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 Re: Bowman decision 2 yrs ago .. he got 6 wks but Stipes wanted 3 months...Bowman's good riding record a big factor in that decision ... can the same be said of OP? According to (stipe) Birch, a reasonable ban for the offence would have been three months, but the suspension was reduced to six weeks by virtue of Bowman's good riding record. MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Freda said: She can be seen doing it. The head-on shown on Weigh In. Appalling display from Opie. Got it, 19.31, she first starts to mouth something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 17 hours ago, RJB said: Michael Guerin is a muppet to...said Opie corrects his mount...thats BS if he had done that there was no people falling of...trying to be PC and protect the protected. totally agree, RJB ...the mute button comes out instantly whenever he's on the box ... saying he "corrects his mount" is ridiculously misleading ...he only corrected it when it was too late ..and, irony of ironies, Tony Lee was waxing lyrical abou the "perfectly judged ride from..." when he had to stop himself MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, barryb said: Weatherley is protected too then?. I see no evidence of it, guide me where there is some proof of it. Point out where someone else got way harsher or treated differently. Dont get me started there....in my opinion and the opinion of many others who have contacted me he was extremely lucky. With his judicial record here and in Australia how he got off so lightly for causing a fatal fall is anyones guess. Just imagine if Taiki had done what Sam did. Dont bury your head in the sand ...there are rules for some and rules for others always have been but thats just the way things are here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, barryb said: I totally agree with Guerin, he was entitled to continue to ride the horse vigorously to the line, only very late did the horse look like it was going to cause trouble & he attempted to correct it, the horse over reacted & continued laying in. The penalty was sufficient for the ride, had he corrected it earlier, the horse wouldn't have won & he would have been fined for not riding it out. The last f--king thing as an owner I want to see is Opie correcting that horse at the 50 mark & it not winning a $100k race because of it. He had every reason to think the horse was going to continue on its path & run clear of the others. So because you had money on it he was entitled to cause 4 horses to fall...give me a break...He as the pilot is responsible for the flight path...this time his compass went hay wire....talk about no emotion LOL...your pocket is talking Haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Just now, barryb said: At the 50mtr mark, every reason to think its going to continue forward and not cause an issue. He had shifted in 5 horses or close to it by then.Anyway enough said others can make up their own minds...cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, barryb said: Bullshit, all emotion & zero fact. They have very clear rules & guidelines which are followed here in the case of Opie. So two months for reckless riding causing a death seems fair to you...no emotion just fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, barryb said: Emotion, not fact, look at the 2 pics I provided, shows facts, moved in bugger all, normal riding in Metro Aus every day. Come on mate moved in bugger all give me a break...we must be looking at different videos.He had only one thing in mind winning nothing else and that is very wrong. There was no consideration given to his fellow riders...but anyway no point banging my head against the wall...cheers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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