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Wow I need to sort my shit out I have really slipped in the last couple of weeks but we all hit bad patches from time to time and I just need to let the deck sort itself out and I will be back to my normal transmission.
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And someone has finally knocked me over but it was a fantastic game could of Govne ever way.
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Good thing we didn't put my service fee up.
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Syndicators
in Chat
4 hours ago, Hesi said:I note with the Karaka yearlings purchased, that are all up for syndication, that Te Akau only put a nominal fee of $10,000 on each syndication
So the million dollar filly, you can buy 10% for $101,000, 5% for $50,500 or 2.5% for $25,250, all plus GST.
The same applies to all yearlings up for syndicate, which I thought was a pretty good deal
Ongoing costs approx $420/month plus GST per 10% share
With Go Racing
Lot 14 Tivaci - Adriatico $240K purchase
10% shares available at $26,800, 5% half that, so in this case it would mean a clipping of the ticket of $28,000, so substantially more than Te Akau. The Savabeel - Arabian Knight, a $150K purchase, 10% shares of $17,450, equates to an even higher mark up
Also the ongoing costs, which are from May 1 2023, are $490/month per 10% share, which is also substantially more
But then looking further some cheaper purchases the ongoing costs are $340 and $380
In my personal opinion I would go with go racing as there overall business model is set up for every level of horse racing unlike Te Akau if your horse is a run or 2 below there measure they retire it.
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Thanks to pj for running a fantastic competition.
Not a bad day on the personal front running at 35% runners to winners pj those sort of stats deserve a service fee increase from $0 to $0 anyway thanks Steve p for a great run I had abit of luck in running today and thanks also to my other team mates we are just warming up this is going to be a true staying test.
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Just now, PWJ said:
Round 2 - Wed Jan 25
Race 1 - Matamata R6
1st - 7 Outback Opal P-$8.202nd - 1 Espionage P-$1.90
3rd - 11 Sorcha P-$1.70
Scr: 3,8,15-18,20
Only the ten Te Akau supporters survive after race one as we lose 17 of the 27 entrants. No one on the Brosnan bolter.
19 Antz
19 Tassie Tiger
17 Max
17 Hesi
17 Stevie N
17 Pete
17 Jack
17 Our Maizcay
17 Gary
17 Secret Squirrel
Eliminated:
Steve P, Maria, Richie, Robert, Craig, Rees, Gee, Sharne, Ngakonui G, Rob, Graeme, Ian, Wrinkles, Rex, PJ, Jamison. Gordy - all $0
I am no te akau supporter but thanks for saying I am lol
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1) 1
2) 14
3) 11
4) 11
5) 14thanks for a question comp but the old 1 selection per race makes it hard but fun at the same time.
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Any change after round 2?????
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And I am all over the form 1 from 1.
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Will these change week on week????
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Thanks for the very informative updates bring on the rest of the comp
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Well that was a better day at the magic millions good to see the clearance rate up to 86.96% and the average has gone up around $22,000 to $293,781.
Also great to see a new top lot beating yesterday's top lot by a staggering $950,000 a zoustar filly out of solar charged ($2,600,000) it will be interesting to see if this filly stays the top lot heading into day 3.
On a side note how good is it to see 3 fillies in the top 5 lots means that there is some very smart investment on the gold coast and people are there just not to buy a race horse as we all no with buying a filly your just not buying the physical article but also buying the page as that will never change if anything it should just get better. -
1 hour ago, vanturk said:
Of which you are allowed
Just putting in the legals pal you never no who reads these
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18 minutes ago, vanturk said:
I see t a purchase a couple
But will not be the top purchaser of the sale they are just another buyer at this sale, you would think they would be buying up some of the nicer types but the big boys who buy on 2 year old type will make sure they are not evan in the same ball park, they will not make a dint in the overall Grosse but thanks for pointing out they were apart of the buying bench to some degree in my personal opinion they are only buying to be seen buying at the gold coast all apart of there marketing strategy look at us approach will be interesting to see how the purchases do on the race track will they ever win a 2 year old magic millions my guess is not as they can't control the entry's into the race.
*The above is my personal opinion.
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Well that was an interesting 1st day of the magic millions was abit of a slow burn to start the day but there was some fire works late in the day with lot 153 a colt by i am invincible out of the winning golden slipper mare in mossfun fetching $1,650,000 will that be the sales topper???
I was surprised in the clearance rate of 82.72% with how slow it started a few vondors would of been thinking how are we going to maximize profit, but with an average of $271,343 most will be happy with that unless your the vendor of the justify colt that went for a total of $20,000.On a side note I see the super Seth colt out of miss bling fetched $250,000, so the market is there for the first season sire who's by one of my favorites in dundeel who Peter will no very well.
Will be very interesting to see how the rest of book 1 of the mm stacks up and how it transpires into the rest of the sales season.
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2 minutes ago, curious said:
I don't have the numbers but doubt the TA performance is any better or worse than anyone else who buys and races horses here?
But are the spending the amounts TA are????
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Just now, vanturk said:
Because I'm not 1 to judge on performance. Either you want to invest or you don't.
But shouldn't that be the main measure on the reason to invest.
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2 hours ago, vanturk said:
Not that I agree with this forum, I read t a maybe setting up a base in aussie
Why don't you agree with what's being said it's all facts based that are all public if you want to put that work in.
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Just now, Hesi said:
Allovertheform
Not bad number 1 pick no pressure at all lol
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13 minutes ago, slam dunk said:
Gai WAterhouse set up with Te Akau in New Zealand. Seemed to fizzle out without really getting off the ground.
As TA like full control.
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13 minutes ago, Hesi said:
Details?
Just sent you a DM.
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4 hours ago, Hesi said:
Still the question remains, why do so many people support such poor results
Is it a social experience thing?
Is it in the hope of getting a champion one day?
Or is it that they are unaware of such poor results?
No question Tom that they have been huge for racing in NZ, but they don't do it for that reason, they are a business that does it to make money
Or is it the fact when you buy in it is extremely hard to buy out!!!!!!
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51 minutes ago, Hesi said:
Still the question remains, why do so many people support such poor results
Is it a social experience thing?
Is it in the hope of getting a champion one day?
Or is it that they are unaware of such poor results?
No question Tom that they have been huge for racing in NZ, but they don't do it for that reason, they are a business that does it to make money
A business that wants to be successful and seen running with the wolf's will never due anything that will be detrimental as it will expose that they should be running with the hounds and with TA its all about image and making sure they are at the top of the pile evan if it's a pile of duds.
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The best thing they could do as a collective is table a vote of no confidence against the current management and board of harness racing new Zealand.
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Summer - Autumn Super Draft Comp Results Thread
in PJ's Comps
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Hope it's more weighted towards the races at randwick should be a ripping meeting.