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Republican Party to win NZ Cup 2024


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42 minutes ago, Lightning Blue said:

nice . yeah Carter pretty experienced now. he could drive them all even better than B.O . Carter was driving Krug well and quite a few others. Have you seen the 'Adore Me' filly go? is really wracking up a few wins for Dalgety's team.

Blair should be driving a few of his own (training/owning) to keep him motivated and attached and not just doing 'driving fees',  nearly all the pro drivers in Nz and Aus have that extra achievement of 'doing their own' which really helps with focus .

What did you think of Jolimont 🥰 ? very nice Sweet Lou horse. Mark had him cruising 💰. Arna D had big team in tonight and she prepares them very well 

Umm yes please CD. A young gun. Feel will do the horse better, perhaps connect better esp with stand starts. Try a change when not getting the desired result. Why not. Cant hurt. Thats all Ill say. 

Well done Jollimont. Go the Lous.

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Happy Anzac day,

Goodie RP has new driver in CD with ace draw. Gets his chance to shine. Altho not ideal distance but quite frankly I see no excuses. Should be fit now. 

Wonder how this race will roll. From memory Alex miles hit 1st cnr quick. Hard to cross if drawn 5 & further out. Hey Lightening & Globe be neat to see in Jollimont (4) use that Lou high speed to cross, RP take a nice sit & they fight out the finish.

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Did more research, check out video. Its Jollimont crossing Sooner the Better at start from wide. STB had pole. Jollimont got 2nd in G1 behind DSD. Actually had Jollimont stayed on rail til end prob would of won. So if they on Jollimont chose to push the button he can go early to lead. Altho in saying that you dont want to gas yourself early too much, look at what happened to Copy That when Nicolas Cage came out too & they speed dualed for too long. Was enough to take edge off Copy That. But thats prob his best chance top 3 chance oppose going back. With RP in trail. Or RP could retake lead, if hasnt gone to hard earlty. It pushes Merlin 3 back & RP & Jollimont fight out finish lead/trail.

Looking at RPs time last start 3.17.7 still fastest horse that race even with tiring. Jollimont 3.18.2 Bear in mind RP galloped at start (Jollimont had a clean get away). RP took 2 corners 3 wide & sat parked last lap. As well as was in running lane all of race. On a wet good track & lots of runners to get around. 

To put in perspective. Copy Thats NZ record stand 2700m 3.16 same track Hot & T time 2nd same race was 3.17.6. Copy That a superior horse over RP stepped lightening fast & only took 1 cnr 3 wide. Got a drag into race at end, was on rail for 1/2 of race on a fast track. Was at peak fitness. 1 start prior NZ Cup. Hot & T stepped good & same as Copy That. With alot less horses to get around.

Prior record holder 2700m stand Triple 8 3.17.2 (2019), prior that Vincent 3.19.2. Tried to find another horse running same as RPs time last start 3.17.7 over stand 2700 & struggled to, hence checked records. 

https://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gws/ws/r/infohorsews/wsd06x?Arg=hrnzg-Ptype&Arg=RaceVideo&Arg=hrnzg-RacehdrID&Arg=A1CE7BB7-2CB4-43DB-9832-DC9371D9E422&Arg=hrnzg-rSite&Arg=TRUE

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On 4/26/2024 at 11:59 AM, karrotsishere said:

Altho in saying that you dont want to gas yourself early too much, look at what happened to Copy That when Nicolas Cage came out too & they speed dualed for too long.

Ok still on RP. Have looked at sectionals & oh my they all gased themselves!

RP lead time was 1st 1/2 (57.2) & 3rd quarter 27.7, Jollimonts was 1st 1/2 (57.7) & 3rd quarter 27.6. 

In comparsion last year same race Copy Thats 1st 1/2 was (57.8) & 3rd quarter 29.6 & Nicolas Cage 1st 1/2 (58.1) & 29.6. Same track conditions & same overall time.

Mach Shard had slowest 1st 1/2 (58.4). His 3rd quarter 27.3, he was then able to came home over the top of them all. He came home in 29 as they all tiring. Esp those with fastest 1st 1/2 sectionals & no let up in 3rd quarter. Well done to him.

Merlin did very well with fast sectionals too & still placing 3rd. 

Wow Akuta paced home last year in 25.9. So deceptive his speed. 

Will leave this thread for a while & re address it closer to the Cup :-)

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