curious

18 minutes ago, Sandpiper said:

Boys Get Paid are aiming to have a $240k punters club going at Karaka millions night. Is it even possible to get set for say 8 bets at $30k without destroying the price? We've all seen bets get referred / reduced for hundreds let alone tens of thousands.

Except there's only 6 races.

1 hour ago, pete said:

And we are now hiding Barry's tips because he's losing so much.

Laughable.

Haha ... hilarious when  his posted selections are up gizillions!

3 hours ago, Hesi said:

Well they should change it then, so the best horses race in the best races, NZ racing needs it

The Pattern Committee agrees with you Hesi.

Levin RC, Levin Classic (G1)–Alert removed as a solid edition rated 112.5 compared to the tolerance threshold of 112. The top 4 starters averaged 113.75. The NZPC remains concerned that this race is not ideally placed in the calendar and will struggle to retain its status in the medium term.In years where there are 5 Saturdays in January, it will only be one week removed from the Karaka 3yo race that now has a $1m stake. The NZPC would carefully consider any submission from NZTR and the affected clubs to move this race to the mid-March date that is currently occupied by the G2 Wellington Guineas, 1400m. It would provide an autumn target for the numerous horses that do not target the Oaks or Derby.

Well that clears that up. Thanks Hesi.

2 hours ago, barryb said:

Do the calcs as Curious has and you see that a Race Track is not what it adds up too.

Well the further calc would be that if the silica surface mix is round .3m deep over the asphalt, 10,000 m3 would equal a 15-16m track. That does add up better.

5 minutes ago, Freda said:

If that is correct wrt the source of sand,  the Awapuni and Riccarton models are going to be a tad pricey.

I think barryb was also referring to the material for the underlying drainage layers which may have to be 'imported' in the Waikato.

16 minutes ago, barryb said:

10,000 m3 is about the volume of material being removed, more like.

Be interesting to know where they are getting the material from to go back in as it doesn't occur naturally in the Waikato or surrounding regions.

Oh. That's a completely different story then. Could someone mix up m2 with m3? I heard/saw the sand for the cushion layer had to come from Northland?

Probably close I'd assume. Because there's a greater area to be covered on the outside of the track 10k+?

Probably some variation in costs depending on underlying layers drainage work requirements etc.

Randwick galloping/trial track 2000/13.5m. A$6.2m.

14 minutes ago, Hesi said:

Just a note in there, that Pakenham did a the same size track, 16m wide(32,000m2), for about 10 mil

So you might expect about 1/3 of that for a 5m galloping track?

Is 6m the estimated cost? Have a look at Turfway this morning or this week. Kickback is just one of the reported problems. You can see it and you won't need HD. Not a problem for training gallops of course. Makes me think this is a track for the breeders to prepare and sell the horses they can't sell as yearlings, not for any real benefit to racing.

So where will the trials go to?

4 minutes ago, Hesi said:

The grass track is being dug up NG, the Polytrack to be used for trials and training, so I would say no grass track

If the poly is only 5m wide on the original rail or close too, it should mean there remains room for a grass galloping track outside that?

Another curiosity is that by my calculations it will be only 5m wide. 10,000 sq m / 2000m length. Can that be right? Fine for a training track but hardly wide enough for trials and certainly not much use for racing?

54 minutes ago, Hesi said:

The first course initiative to come out of the Messara Report, a training track at Cambridge.  I fail to see how that will help NZ racing.  It will just allow the Cambridge elite to get their horses ready for Aus racing, without the interruption of bog tracks, and right on the doorstep for most

What are the odds, that a race meeting will ever be held there

Aus racing and sale I'd say. Interesting choice. Is this not the same synthetic surface that was installed and then removed by the likes of Keeneland, Del Mar, Santa Anita, Woodbine etc? I'd love to see the due diligence report that led to the decision.

Nice contemporaneous example Mardi.

20 minutes ago, Sir Gallivant said:

Hi ...... Geesh Whitebait for new years eve after seeing all those photo's ..... Has the syndicate idea dried up or are there further investigations being looked into ..... am keen ... but having been burnt on two occasions ..... so caution and money will be my decision to join. 

Just took another 750 gms out of the freezer for tomorrow night! Some freshly caught SI trout on the way as well. Not sure what the plan is from here on the syndicate idea SG?

Yes. Fair points about the land grab and IP rights but nuts on  a few other things like ownership of the TAB. Taxpayers own it. 

I think a much better model would be for the codes/clubs to retain the IP rights and license the use of those to the TAB and/or other operators. If sports can offer those operators a better deal then the codes need to compete with that. The preference for TR in the Messara report ToR was unfortunately just more of the same that created this mess.

1 hour ago, Hesi said:

The Trackside presenters as per usual were warbling on about good to see the crowds returning to Ellerslie today, but there did not look to be many there, the public stand looked empty

Anybody there today with a better more accurate feel for the numbers

Watched a couple of races there. Bit of a party going on down below. Upper public stand completely empty and about a dozen in the lower portion. Sad really. Wasn't bad racing.

On 12/25/2019 at 3:48 PM, barryb said:

Bloody hell Curious, you live like a king mate.

Delayed cooking them until after the Queens message.

Hope the message went down well. Had to struggle through the leftovers for lunch today.

2 hours ago, Hesi said:

NZ

Gavelhouse might be an option?

1 hour ago, barryb said:

Bloody hell Curious, you live like a king mate.

Delayed cooking them until after the Queens message.

First read that, I thought it said Queen's massage. Might be the prosecco!

1 hour ago, barryb said:

Is Palmerston North a country?.

Far far too much Prosecco, seems the last 2 hrs has mysteriously disappeared.

How did the burnt lemon go?

What country are we aiming to race in?