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Results time. Karrots is the only entrant, Karrots win. But Karrots on the money haha.

You didnt answer my question tho Max. Never asked how long Melbourne Cup has been going. How much general admin for NZ Cup Day? Bit tough on single mums. So single Dads same thing then? Should be at home looking after kids? Or what about the Dads, should they be allowed to go & not the mums, takes 2 to produce. Party finishes at 11pm. Dont see the harm in them being out of the house from 5pm - 11pm with a babysitter. Or perhaps kids at a friends. Who said they will be 1/2 pissed? Iv said multiple times on here, but I understand you follow gallops not Harness. Cambridge got 120 noms for this meeting but TAB/HRNZ only gave them 8 races. Not fair. Anyway yes each to their own. Im sure it will be a great nite for those that attend.

Ps hear a bunch of single mums aged 30s & early 40s are going haha. Keen to watch the young now hottie 29 M James play after. Btw how much is Melbourne Cup general admin for last min tickets?

Yip know what you mean re usual race goer. Suspect those will have brought the $150 or $360 hospitality tickets which are all sold out. As of yesterday morning pre gate sales were 4000. By R1 its expected a full house of 5000. With the stats being older generation & a need to try to get younger people interested, involved or at least know about Harness, well here it is. They will be on track its a start. I think its a great idea. How many on track are there these days of the regular race goer? Hardly any. M James is a singer songer writer not a DJ lol. Google him. 1st name Mitch. Nomed top Kiwi artist etc. Has hits like Sunday Mornings & 21. Agree re promotion. I thought there would of been more. But whatever they have done seems to have worked as will be a sell out crowd of 5000.

The big day has arrived for Cambridge. Judging by weather report looks like will be a nice evening. Who will be the victor? Great timing with getting M James today for after party, as he starts his world tour 18th April in France, traveling thru Europe, before heading to UK then Australia then back to NZ. His world tour tickets are ND65. So a bit of a deal for tonights race-goers which includes a free drink alchol or non alcholic, plus 3 Djs playing between races. Plus the big $1 million race. Early general admin was NZD30, then NZD40, now final last minute sales NZD50.

Here is the link its official rule applies from 1 July 2023 https://tasracingcorporate.com.au/2023/04/11/harness-equity-in-participation-policy/

True & answer is yes. Perhaps need to amend the rule even further then somehow.

Results time, Dare Devil last. Thats 4 examples Iv done & all 4 times horses have come last with one 2nd last. All from top stables too. (2) starts All Stars, (1) Donelley, (1) Lincoln Farms. Maidens should not be rated above race winners & should not be popping out ahead of race winners. R40 they should be popping out. Hopeless where is the main Handicapper A Morris, still away at lunch?

Wow big run alright by Gronkowski. Started 2nd row 6. Charged forward, kept going forward 3 wide. Until finally parked, sat parked, then charged forward again to lead, then left them to it in the straight onto to be run down late. (see look people can see him charging forward 3 wide in screen still). Haha ok got it re Thunderbirds. I just like saying Thunderbirds are GO. Thought maybe us with punting finding the tips. But alas no. The flying fast birds. Thats funny.

Result WIN for The Ladybird. Thunderbirds are GO. Happy are we the thunderbirds or are they? Had to google Thunderbirds haha. Found this.

Winton today 12 races normal meeting. R7 6 runners, R10 6 runners. Cambridge, many have waited all year for tomorrows meeting. Including owners, trainers, locals & the club themselves. Being a country club. Their 1 BIG meeting of the YEAR. Cambridge themselves get the money together from outsiders, sponsors & their own funds & sweepstakes & hold this $1 million race. To promote Harness Racing. Ready to put on a great evening with full entertainment & after party. All hospitality tickets are sold out, & the final 3rd release of general admin tickets are selling fast 4000 sold to date, expected to hit 5000 by R1. They get 120 noms BUT restricted to only 8 races by TAB/HRNZ. Noted many from Central Districts looked to have missed out or withdrawn as obvious not to get a run. So unfair BS. No wonder they want their own admin group.

The latest update r B Yole & Tassie racing. Is a new rule has been made, this is to promote intergrity & fairness & participation. No trainer is allowed to have more than 50% of runners. So if there are 11 starters the max any 1 trainer can have or have in their care is 5. Not sure when this rule comes into play.

The Ladybird form 65980 TAB seem to like this form, starts 2nd fav 3.80 - 1.40 or is it don't want to take any risks? Gronkoski form 80552 TAB seem to like this form, starts fav 3.60 - 1.60 even off a BAD draw of 14 (26) or is it they don't want to take any risks? Prides Bellissima form 97770 TAB seem to like this form, starts fav 2.20 - 1.30 or is it they don't want to take any risks?

Where is the Handicapper A Morris? Is he still out having lunch for goodness sake. Hopeless. Even M Purdon has backed up what I have said re Dare Devil. This is so unfair on this horse Dare Devil, he has been put up against up to R65. And wait for it he has been handicapped yet again in this field! On the 2nd row due to pref draw. As he is a R49 with having only 4 starts, 1 win. Maidens should NOT BE popping out at R50 or around there. Its not fair. And they certainly shouldnt be off the 2nd row FFS. For R44 to R60 3yo-&-older pacers. Also R61 to R65 4 yrs & older mares if driven by a concession junior driver. Preferential Barrier Draw Based on: Rating then Winning Stakes using the track grid. https://harnesslink.com/new-zealand/huge-year-on-horizon-as-champion-juvenile-trotter-resumes/ Race four will see the second up run of the well-bred son of Sweet Lou, Dare Devil, who has had some time to forget about a torrid run first up at the end of last month and will be looking to get his campaign back on track with a better performance. “He has bounced back really good, and it’s probably been around three weeks between runs. I think he is fit and ready to go. It’s probably a grade he shouldn’t have to tackle just yet with a couple rated in the low 60’s whereas he is rated a 49. “I think he will run an honest race but there are probably a few who will outclass him on the night,” he said.

Lol, yes agree. Funny when you put it like that. Oh how interesting, because the last I read & watched about him & his cohoots, his cohoots were giving a young lady death threads & she had to leave the race track escorted by security, they spoke about it at local parliament We followed it on here in depth initially. Take a look on the Animal Welfare, RSPCA & MPI thread. Alot of reading & video watching for you.

Here is my fun guess race scenerio, bragging rights for the poster that gets it closest to the mark. Old Town Road crosses No Matter Wat, Copy That goes out with OTR. BD Joe comes out also. OTR leads, Copy That keeps pressing forward as does BJ Joe, to eventually Copy That is in the lead & BD Joe is parked with OTR in trail. No matter Wat 3 back fence, Nicolas Cage 4 back fence, Self Assured has pushed thru to get the 1/1, Akuta has moved directly behind Self Assured to be 3 bak outer. Triple 8 drops bak off gate & ends up 4 bak outer, his stable mate Bettor Esclipse files back also & lands behind him in outer & Kango goes bak & either files in outer behind them or takes up the rail to be 5 back. This is how they stay initially field order. Until Bettor Eclipse moves. This move could be at anytime, but he goes 1st. Pending when he moves if its in the 2nd 1/2 of the race Triple 8 will grab his back & be a helmet to follow. Akuta sees this movement from back coming & M Purdon isnt that keen on being 4 bak outer over final stages or even 5 bak outter, so he needs to move to either go infront of the moving forward Bettor Eclipse or follow him in on the helmet. Probably push out infront of him actally. Seeing the 3 wide line coming N Ras will make a decision to move too with them either in-front of them or behind them. Pending where in the running this takes place, she could push Bettor Eclipse 4 wide. BJ Joe would of got the shuffle up, maybe to 3 bak outer or worse case 4 bak outer final stages. He potentially needs to push out, or risk getting pushed back. Copy That copes not much pressure other than the initial getting the lead pressure, because none of these are types that will bully or apply lots of pressure. 1st, 2nd in any order Copy That & Old Town Road. 3rd - 4th who knows. Kango & Nicolas Cage wont be able to get into it, due to the draws hurting them & them being out the back majority of the race. Altho with Cage being tucked up 4 bak rail, he may finish the race off nicely running on. Could get 5th.

Oh how interesting Telfer has said misleading things. I wasn't meaning for punters, I was meaning to other trainers/drivers. R Green has taken the bait. Meaning that Green cant just think Copy That can just stroll to lead. Good in his reply tho. Hes funny sometimes ha. https://www.lincolnfarms.co.nz/stories/records-under-threat-with-fireworks-predicted-in-friday-nights-grins-at-cambridge/ Green isn’t flustered at co-trainer S Telfer’s declaration that he’ll be asking driver Tim Williams to get B D Joe off the gate as hard as he can from five. With Z Butcher certain to also spear Old Town Road out from two, Copy That looks like copping pressure from both sides. “What do they think we’ll be doing in the meantime?” says Green, confirming what everyone already knows that Copy That will also be gunning for the top.

Here is an example of bringing non usual race goers to races for The Race. https://www.lincolnfarms.co.nz/stories/geez-wayne-rare-night-at-the-trots-leads-to-chance-of-50-000-collect-on-copy-that/ W Keoghan doesn’t follow the horses. He’d never heard of Copy That before today. But on Friday night, there won’t be one person in the country more focussed on his run in the $1million The Race By Grins at Cambridge. That’s because Keoghan stands to win $50,000 if Copy That takes out the big slot race after drawing the ruling favourite in Cambridge Raceway’s sweepstake. That Keoghan, even bought a ticket was remarkable considering he and his wife hadn’t been to the races for more than four years when they went with some family and friends last Thursday. “It was a sheer fluke. We hadn’t been to the trots for I don’t know how long, it was well before Covid. But it was Easter weekend and we were going away in motorhome with a friend so we thought why not park up there on Thursday night and go on to Rotorua the next day. “I was up at the bar and the girl asked would I like a ticket in a sweepstake. I heard her say if we got drawn, we’d win a minimum of $2000, and to be honest I didn’t even listen to the rest of what she was saying.” Keoghan says they wouldn’t normally spend $100 on a lottery ticket but when he put it to his wife, “she hummed and haaa-ed for a while, then we decided we’d take a punt.

Look Lightening, who is the owner of The Ladybird. Recall you saying A Bain is the top of 2nd top owner for B Yole. B Yole who currently has serious allegations made about him & his stable from ABC TV Australia. I just did a search on Profit site for his name A Bain & it pops up alot! Profit has written about him alot in a very negative manner. And well well well, now turns up as owner of a T Dewe runner. Just brought the horse & transferred it directly to T Dewe stable! The Ladybird Owners: Summit Bloodstock Pty Ltd, A Bain Racing Pty Ltd (as at 28-03-2023)

Agree. And it brings in Australian interest too & some Aussies are coming over for it.

https://www.hrnz.co.nz/news/telfer-promises-aggressive-tactics-in-the-1m-the-race-by-grins/ Smart - Telfer saying publically he will have a crack on BD JOE for lead. See the scary tactics are out there now. Good now connections of Copy That wont be thinking they will just get gifted the lead. Now they need to consider a fight for the lead & also remember Copy Thats history when in a fight for the lead. Its all on. Good tho with $1 millon up for grabs. No point going back on BD Joe. No chance from the back. And as Telfer says if he misses the front cover will likely come.

Be bolting wont it. That's how it looks his stable runners on race replays. Look like they are bolting. In anycase. Still hard to win, having to lap field.

Probably best not to regurgitate that over. Focus on other things re The Race. Re stable driving, its not cheating, while by some it can be perceived as so but ultimately its within the rules of NZ racing, so unless HRNZ change that rule, people will continue to stable drive to their advantage. Like you I cant stand it. And I call it out, whoever stable does it. Gawd just took a peak & talking non-sense. HRNZ didn't fund The Race last year, they did not put a cent in. Waikato/Bay of Plenty Club & the slot holders did & Cambridge got product sponsors Grins. The extra $100,000 needed to put up the stake money to $1 million this year has come from a great idea by Cambridge with a sweepstake. They sold tickets. And the draw has been done. The winner wins $50k 10th place gets $2k. So all 10 people win $. https://www.nightofchampions.nz/sweepstake/ Its called a slot race for a reason. Its independently funded. If HRNZ put any in this year it would be a very small percentage of the $1 million. For those local after having the Jewels taken off them which when was run last time at Cambridge, it was the highest ever turnover for Jewels & the 2nd highest ever turnover for the year by a club behind Cup Week. It gives locals their time to shine. Something exciting to look forward too & 2 local pacers in. Nicolas Cage & Kango. There is alot of North reps 6 if include ex Northern Triple 8 now Aussie rep Old Town Road, Copy That, Nicolas Cage, Kango, BD Joe, ex Northern Triple Eight. The entire community in Cambridge get behind it & make these days a success. One big day a year, that they Cambridge took up, put their hand up for. NOT HRNZ, BUT CAMBRIDGE. HRNZ had nothing to do with this. So they do not get the credit. Its all Cambridge. Ticket sales are expected to be a sell out crowd of 5000. It gets new people to the track & it gets people talking positively about Harness Racing. The turnover will be interesting with ONLY 8 RACES HRNZ/TAB gave them, after 120 noms. Obviously some missed out. Also consider punters $$ majority of $ comes from the North people! The Northern Punters are funding Harness racing in NZ! Cambridge prob aren't worried about some know-all self-proclaimed expert punter in the South anyway. Repeat the money comes from the North. Great to see initiative & a Big after party with a TOP NZ singer/song writer M James. DJs playing too thru- out the nite. Great way to try to get new young demos to the races & involved.

How will Gronkowski go Thurs Winton? Bad draw to over-come. Would have to loop the field at some stage & keep going. Not many horses can do that. Do you think Gronkowski can?

Thunderbirds are GO. Betterzipit. In true Thunderbird - Grimson fashion. He is going around telling people & telling journos & texing people that he cant see Betterzipit lose the big SLOT race West Australia. He has also said that Betterzip it is his best horse yet! Also there was a rumour going around that Grimsons stable hand or close contact prior NZ Cup 2022 was going around telling people that Majestic Cruzier was a shoo in. (nearly won too 2nd!) came wide, wide and was still running. So pleased Copy That won! Wonder why they were and are so confident????? Considering so many viables & this was prior the draw he was saying this. No idea if draw has been done yet. But A Butt said that now Grimson has stated this & its been made public, the Western trainers & drivers will give his horse s..t hahaha. Good. And if they get a chance to do what they did to Laz they will & post him 3 wide whole race if poss. Hahaha.