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5 hours ago, BarryB said:

its becuase there are dumb bastards like you on these sites Hesi.

If I was Hesi, I would ban you because:

1) You are a rude bastard, otherwise known as Barry The Bastard

2] You can not spell.

8 hours ago, mardigras said:

Another idea aimed at breeders with some owner benefit.

Where are the incentives to drive punting revenue?

A breeder added to the board - why is NZTR so in bed with the breeding side of things. 

Russell Warwick also represents one of the largest owners (number of horses racing) in this country in Gerry Harvey. His colours are Blue with White crossed sashes. Often the horses race in the name of NZ Thorougbred Holdings. 

On 5/5/2024 at 9:09 PM, curious said:

As far as I'm aware, Kempton and Lingfield polytracks at least are laid over an asphalt membrane. Michael Dickinson's Tapeta tracks can also be laid over asphalt.

We should have gone with Michael Dickinson’s Tapeta but when I mentioned it to Tony Pike (President of Cambridge and the Trainers at the time) he wasn’t having a bar of it. His response was… we are dealing with an Australian company and they know what they are doing and they are nearby. 
My view is that Tapeta would have been much better. And for those that for those that don’t know approximately 8 or 10 year ago Michael visited NZ promoting his product and I had the opportunity to meet him.
For those that don’t know he was probably the best jumps trainer of all time in England in the short time he trained there before emigrating to the USA and started training all over again (this time on the flat) and formulating the Tapeta track. 

4 hours ago, curious said:

If racing people are that stupid that they need to even ask the question, then they deserve what they are getting. I give up. Mark Twain comes to mind.

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

That's exactly what I was thinking, and I am not alone based on the private messages I get!

2 hours ago, curious said:

It does get spent on stakes (or at least distributions to codes) but the net revenue from betting on NZ racing makes up only about 25% of what is required to run the events. The rest now comes from various other sources, betting on other events, pokies, the NZ taxpayer and currently Entain's largesse. That wasn't the case 20 years ago when NZ racing pretty much paid for itself from net wagering revenue. It's been a slippery slope from there.

Please explain to me how the NZ taxpayer currently contributes anything to the TAB either daily weekly, monthly or yearly.

I admit that the Taxpayer/NZ Government bailed out the TAB incidentally caused by the idiots of their own appointments, John Allen etc.

I would have thought that the TAB and/or Racing Industry was a huge contributor in reverse, Duty, GST, Tax on wages via Stable Staff, Race-day people, Tote staff etc.

So where does the money/profit from betting get spent if it’s not on stakes?

4 hours ago, mardigras said:

Every race in NZ has a stake at least 2-3 times what it should, and the Group level racing is more like 4-5 times what they should be.

 

 

 

Mardi, are you saying that race stakes in NZ are more than 2 or 3 times what they should be and Group Racing is 4 to 5 times what they should be?

If so we what is your rationale for saying that?

21 minutes ago, Freda said:

It well might.   Unfortunate if so, but hardly surprising.     And the pissed-up crew that turns up on Cup Day wouldn't, in the main, know or care anything about the Guineas.

The NZ Cup, although deemed by many as a handicap for second-raters, is the race the average attendee has in his/her mind.

A new 3 year old series specifically for southern youngsters, generally less forward and mature than their northern counterparts, could take its place....with some innovative thinking.

You are probably right about the young ones but not the rest of us.

If you want to isolate yourself [the SI] from the rest of us, that is defeatist thinking and will take you further down the slippery slope.

Whilst it would have been great to win that $350K race restricted to South Island trained horses the other day, what a waste of money half of that stake was.

In other words the racing being worth $175K would have sufficed, with the rest spread elsewhere for all participants, even if it was in the SI.

50 minutes ago, curious said:

Were you not there for Cup Day 22?

No, but they have learned since 😇

Probably a BETTER bet would be to transfer the NZ Derby back to Riccarton.

At least it can be guaranteed that the track will be RACEABLE on.

The NORTH have been trying to get the Guineas races for years. 

It would destroy the NZ Cup Carnival at Riccarton.

It WONT happen.

35 minutes ago, curious said:

Is that the new Guineas sale?

Surely these last few posts are a hang over from 1 April. 

If not please post something official regarding the new Guineas sale or any other news release. 

56 minutes ago, Turny said:

SI racing facing real issues with potential loss of major races to Ellerslie and their sell out crowds as racing so big up there

Up the Ellerslie

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤️

Just now, Hesi said:

Talking about tracks BR, are you in a position to update us on what is happening with Trentham

Nothing and wont be. [You heard it here first]

Good night for the 2nd time. 

Barry the Bastard has sent me off to bed. 😂

2 minutes ago, BarryB said:

It was about preserving history & character of the course, now off to bed with you, elderly like you should be resting by now.

Good night 😂

1 minute ago, BarryB said:

Curious is the Whitebait fritter king. I looked at my Whitebait nets this morning actually Hesi, 3 of which I have & thought only a few months to go.

I don't know about the fritters but Buller is right up there as king of the whitebait, at least when I played for the Sub-Union.

1 minute ago, BarryB said:

Great post & incredibly perceptive Craig, a hug part of the track construction challenge is the turns & the camber & rise.

Agree 100% 

Why cant Auckland and all their crony supporters, acknowledge it?

They simply fucked up.

Just now, BarryB said:

No, I left because of an idiot here, that person took a back seat & I came back, I have limited tolerance for stirrers & fools Insider.

Me too 😂

1 hour ago, BarryB said:

Hesi, short answer is No.

Guys like RJB know more than I do on the subject obviously.

What I can say is NO process was not followed & nothing was skimped, all of that talk is fucking bullshit.

I think some are jealous that the upper North Island is where our sport is concentrated & love it when it fails for whatever reason. What they fail to understand is that if ellerslie fails then NZ racing is totally fucked & wont exist in 5 yrs.

Either get behind it & support or find an alternate interest as that's where it will fall.

Sadly your view is your view which simply follows the line.......give Auckland whatever they want and to hell with everything else... the Pattern of Racing, tradition, the Seasons etc etc.

Thank God the 1000 and 2000 Guineas are still being run a Riccarton.

Look what they have done to the the Wellington Cup Carnival.

I don't need to go on, but racing will go on with or without Ellerslie.

Are you Leggy/Curious in drag?

I thought that you had thrown you toys out of the cot and gone anyway.

What gives?

2 hours ago, BarryB said:

Randwick abandoned, do we feel the same about that guys?.

 

Get real!

On 6/8/2023 at 8:11 PM, Hesi said:

With the re-opening of Ellerslie in Jan 24, with the wonderful Strathayr track, you would think they could re-organise the picnics and boot parties.  Messrs Ellis and Vela might not like that though, the riff raff, might detract from the upmarket evening lol

No thanks

Hesi, I was wasting a bit of time reading older threads and came across this posting of yours. As you have the ability to, can you edit it by removing the word wonderful? 😂

5 hours ago, curious said:

While I have concerns that they may still consider racing or even trialling on it until they are as certain as possible that the risks have been remedied, I think this is a much more comprehensive and detailed report of the outcome of today's work on the issue than we have been getting, and to me, sounds hopeful that it can be sorted.

Whilst in general I agree with you, I don’t think that there is too much of a risk trialling on Monday so long as the rail is in the innermost position. 
After all, that part of the track has been used of late without any problems. 
In fact I have even recommended that my friends take their filly there to trial on Monday. 

Beautifully handled too 

Race 1:  2, 7, 8

Race 2:  3, 7, 12

Race 3:  2, 3, 5

Race 4:  3, 4, 5

Race 5:  1, 5, 6

Race 6:  2, 8, 9 BB

Race 7:  6, 10, 14 BB

Race 8:  3, 9, 10

Race 9:  2 3, 5

Thanks from a galloping man.

Hopefully the rain stays away and doesn't spoil the party.

P.S. I cant believe I have only picked a horse drawn one on a front runners track, that is almost certainly to be, rain effected.

Maybe I should simply put a dollar on all of them!