Rusty Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 The odds on offer have been crunched immediately after opening, for "No Nukes Skipper" in race 9 at Ashburton (Sunday). It raises eye brows. But for what reasons? Did the TAB oddsmakers (I refuse to call them bookies) set the initial odds far too long? Or was it because someone placed a lazy tenner on the nose, so the market had to be immediately adjusted accordingly? Or something else? Has someone had an old fashion go? And if they have, what have they seen, that most others haven't? Be an interesting runner to watch. Race 9 at 3.36pm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Rusty said: It raises eye brows. It sure does. The Woodend watch alert went up straight away. I could make a few smart comments but would probably cross the line. 8s into 3.30, even despite the weak kneed TAB, is still a reasonable go. It is just the inconsistency surrounding the way they punt that horse. 2 hours ago, Rusty said: Did the TAB oddsmakers (I refuse to call them bookies) set the initial odds far too long? Queenofdance, Ardern's Ace and Lulu Le Mans will offer opposition. Especially Queenofdance with Sam Ottley on. Harness racing is a real mess at the moment. Last night's false starts were inept and showed the lack of nous involved. Add in the cheaters, the inconsistent rulings around the starts, the state of northern harness and punters not able to get a decent bet on it just dismays me. I might add I freely speculate listed trainers are not actually training horses as it is far too easy to manipulate and the owners who are listed in the race book are the actual owners. Maybe the code of conduct will take care of it all! PS In Race 1, Press Play opens at ff5.50? What is that all about. I have watched that horse quite closely recently and it is not shown much after its initial 2nd at Forbury. It is poorly gaited and can barely get around the track in one piece. Also, The Terrorfier and Ultimate Bird are drawn inside it. How can the TAB possibly open it at that price? Its trial for 3rd at Ashburton in slow time? Bugger me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 15 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: Lulu Le Mans Back to mobile is a good chance. Will be my pick for the day. R2 Venus Tyron. Not the best gaited but has some tow for odds. R4 Chevron Art. Very quick horse and might be leading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 So what does one say after No Nukes Skipper wins? I can't say what I am thinking because I would be breaking the future code of conduct even thought it doesn't apply to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 Just now, Happy Sunrise said: So what does one say after No Nukes Skipper wins? I can't say what I am thinking because I would be breaking the future code of conduct even thought it doesn't apply to me. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 Are they swabbing all winners these days, or just "random" swabbing still? Asking for a friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rusty said: Ditto. Perception is quite important and the way I see it is not very good at all. This is why I don't bet into races with certain trainers in it. Too risky because of their inconsistent performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Rusty said: Are they swabbing all winners these days, or just "random" swabbing still? Asking for a friend. If No Nukes Skipper is not swabbed then there is no credibility left in harness racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: If No Nukes Skipper is not swabbed then there is no credibility left in harness racing. Agree. Very dodgy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 Thank you for the explanation Mr Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 Not all winners were swabbed at Ashburton, but No Nukes Skipper was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 10 hours ago, Rusty said: Thank you for the explanation Mr Jones. 5 back on the outer the trip at Addington last time and 10/9 in the betting so why didn't they get into the race last time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: 5 back on the outer the trip at Addington last time and 10/9 in the betting so why didn't they get into the race last time? Hmmmm... We can only speculate. No doubt, there will be at least one reason. I didn't see the previous race, so can only assume you are correct Happy - so the question you asked, should have been asked in the stipe's room as a follow up question, one would have thought. It was an "interesting" runner to follow on Sunday, and it will be "interesting" again to see it's next start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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