Addington Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) P Williamson has 3 unraced trotters lining up in this race. Even driving one himself but the money will usually say which is the better chance if history is anything to go by Edited November 15, 2021 by Addington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 For a tick thought you may have been sussing out your selections for Round 3 of Comp, then realise its at Timaru not Winton tehe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Addington said: P Williamson has 3 unraced trotters lining up in this race. Even driving one himself but the money will usually say which is the better chance if history is anything to go by I would be on the no 2 Pyramid Magic. imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) Ill take Bensons Mate thanks. Had to get a map out & check out where this place is. Well actually did that as noted this horse movement & was wondering why. But is quite the distance from Woodends Beach. Again had to google where that is too 😄 Horse Movements: Bensons Mate to C Ferguson at Wyndham Raceway. Edited November 16, 2021 by karrotsishere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addington Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) So they'run 1 2 and 4th with the old maestro Phil driving the winner at 3 to 2 Edited November 18, 2021 by Addington 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Addington said: So they'run 1 2 and 4th with the old maestro Phil driving the winner at 3 to 2 Yep ,filthy 4th. So much for my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Meanwhile checking TAB results my select gets a dirty old 2nd lol. Beat by a horse with form x09. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, Globederby19 said: Yep ,filthy 4th. So much for my opinion. To be fair Rees, if it had done things right, and of course, that is what you have to do in trot, I think it would have won by a comfortable margin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, karrotsishere said: Meanwhile checking TAB results my select gets a dirty old 2nd lol. Beat by a horse with form x09. Hi Karrots. My feeling the reason your horse got beaten was, because it went too slow in front. Nothing challenged it, and it left in horse in the trail a good opportunity to have the last crack, which it did, and while he was certainly giving his all at the finish, he was just out finished. Cheers. Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, Double R said: To be fair Rees, if it had done things right, and of course, that is what you have to do in trot, I think it would have won by a comfortable margin. Yeah ,I know Robert. They can be very frustrating .He looks a good horse by Love You. One reason I gave it the nod was he had Brad up. Phil did well and shows he can still drive . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Globederby19 said: Yeah ,I know Robert. They can be very frustrating .He looks a good horse by Love You. One reason I gave it the nod was he had Brad up. Phil did well and shows he can still drive . We sure do know the trotters do need plenty of patience, don't we!! As I mentioned in another thread, the first horse I had was a trotter, and had three starts as a three year old, and galloped at the start, and lost all chance, in each race. He came back as a four year old, and won his first race, at one of the smallest tracks (800 metres) in N.Z. at that time, at Greymouth in the mid 1970's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addington Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 All things considered and that why i made original post P Williamson is a machine and probably the best trainer of trotters in NZ. Globe's pick was a 2yr ols and the other 2 3 yr old's. No one else could do it IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, Addington said: P Williamson is a machine and probably the best trainer of trotters in NZ. I think John Dunn has probably taken him over on recent form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: I think John Dunn has probably taken him over on recent form. Wait to see what MM does at the Interdominions. The Dominion was an aberration for him. The best is yet to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Double R said: We sure do know the trotters do need plenty of patience, don't we!! As I mentioned in another thread, the first horse I had was a trotter, and had three starts as a three year old, and galloped at the start, and lost all chance, in each race. He came back as a four year old, and won his first race, at one of the smallest tracks (800 metres) in N.Z. at that time, at Greymouth in the mid 1970's. What was his name Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Globederby19 said: What was his name Robert. 1 hour ago, Globederby19 said: What was his name Robert. Sharmbro. He won 8 races, and ran in the Dominion and Rowe Cup, but was unplaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addington Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: I think John Dunn has probably taken him over on recent form. Over Cup week he did excel in the Dominion but in terms of consistency Williamson is better overall IMO. The 3 horses i referred to were a 2yr old and 2 3yr olds having first starts. That none broke suggests excellent grounding/training to me. They might have some talent as well. 😘 Edited November 18, 2021 by Addington 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, Addington said: Over Cup week he did excel in the Dominion but in terms of consistency Williamson is better overall IMO. The 3 horses i referred to were a 2yr old and 2 3yr olds having first starts. That none broke suggests excellent grounding/training to me. They might have some talent as well. 😘 I agree Addy. I think it was just circumstances that many watching races do not see, probably cost Pyramid Magic the win. I am picking it was the first time away from home, on a strange course, and blimey heck, you are in front, and you see the clerk of the course coming towards you on an inside track, and being spooked. Cheers. Robert. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Double R said: Sharmbro. He won 8 races, and ran in the Dominion and Rowe Cup, but was unplaced. Yeah, remember him. another Armbro Del horse. Exported to USA I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Globederby19 said: Yeah, remember him. another Armbro Del horse. Exported to USA I see. Correct Rees. He was broken in as a pacer, and then switched to trotting, won 8 races, and then as an eight year old, changed stables to Jack Smolenski, and switched to pacing, and was classed as a fringe open class pacer, but did run one third. Edited November 18, 2021 by Double R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Double R said: Correct Rees. He was broken in as a pacer, and then switched to trotting, won 8 races, and then as an eight year old, changed stables to Jack Smolenski, and switched to pacing, and was classed as a fringe open class pacer, but did run one third. Yeah, much like a good horse called Miss Debra. Dual gaited and competed against the best at Trotting, and wasnt to bad at pacing either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, Globederby19 said: Yeah, much like a good horse called Miss Debra. Dual gaited and competed against the best at Trotting, and wasnt to bad at pacing either. On the subject of trotting Rees. The winner of the N.Z.Trotting Cup in both 1920+1921 was a straight out trotter called Reta Peter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Double R said: On the subject of trotting Rees. The winner of the N.Z.Trotting Cup in both 1920+1921 was a straight out trotter called Reta Peter. Correct. I have all the books ever printed on Harness in this country, and Australia. ,which one can find in yr Hall of Fame. You could come up with all sorts of trivia. eg. The Australian trotting sire Aachen. Why they called him that ,was for the reason he would be the first Sires name in the book if anyone was looking. Another. Who fell out of the sulky dead during the NZ Cup back in the 1930,s driving Colonal Grattan while leading.?????? Eugene McDermott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Double R said: The winner of the N.Z.Trotting Cup in both 1920+1921 was a straight out trotter called Reta Peter. So was the very first NZ Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Globederby19 said: So was the very first NZ Cup. Of interest Rees. The first N.Z.Cup was run 1904, and won by another trotter called, Monte Carlo. Every cup run has been over 2 miles, or the modern day, 3200 metres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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