karrotsishere Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lightning Blue said: Nice field there Karrots!! , but not like you to leave the North stranded .with very few runners lol. 'Bad to the Bone' and 'HotNTreacherous' were both 4 year old Jewels placed in Winter, both beating Laver and Copy That home too, and 'Dancetime' wins now and then and is from a leading stable. So those three will be fighting for a slot as well in all likelihood..... Was actually going to update, do final final list lol. As have just seen articles on HRNZ which says OZ horse Lochival Art connections are keen to be invited for a slot & come to NZ. So he has to go on too now so he can replace Atla Wiseguy as another article indicated connections want to ease him into Open Class with 4y-o races first. So looks a no-go. Not sure who to take off to let Loch Art in, & will pend his re-intro back into racing performances, before he can bounce up on top 10 list. Ill put Bad To Bone & Hot N T as Emergencies too as going off latest form. Latest updated list 1. KING OF SWING 2. SELF ASSURED 3. SOUTH COAST ARDEN 4. STEEL THE SHOW 5. LAVER 6. KANGO 7. KRUG 8. BD JOE 9. BETTORS TWIST 10. PEMBROOKE PLAYBOY E1. LOCH ART E2 DI CAPRIO E3 BAD TO BONE E4 HOT N T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 A Hamiltons take on The Race - & its an ouch lol. Righto see y'all tomorrow. Time to head out for day into this HEAT 🔥 SLOT RACE I’m sure it won’t be long until Australia follows the other two codes and announces its own (Everest style) slot race. Crucially, please don’t embarrass ourselves or cheapen the exciting potential slot races ooze by going down the woeful path NZ has for Cambridge in coming months. The Everest and Phoenix (in greyhound racing) have worked so superbly because of the investment in bolstering stakemoney way above that injected by slot holders. It’s essential. Cut corners like NZ has and you cheapen the concept and seriously risk the race not even going ahead when potential investors do their sums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 11:37 AM, karrotsishere said: A Hamiltons take on The Race - & its an ouch lol. Righto see y'all tomorrow. Time to head out for day into this HEAT 🔥 SLOT RACE I’m sure it won’t be long until Australia follows the other two codes and announces its own (Everest style) slot race. Crucially, please don’t embarrass ourselves or cheapen the exciting potential slot races ooze by going down the woeful path NZ has for Cambridge in coming months. The Everest and Phoenix (in greyhound racing) have worked so superbly because of the investment in bolstering stakemoney way above that injected by slot holders. It’s essential. Cut corners like NZ has and you cheapen the concept and seriously risk the race not even going ahead when potential investors do their sums. I am in favour of this type of concept, and hope it can get off the ground. I don't feel we have the depth of competitive horses in the top grade to give certainty to have a race worthy of its status. As we know, there are so many variables in racing a horse, with injury, and non performance being a large factor. Given that, if one or more of the top six horses are unable to race, and here is hoping that doesn't happen, it is going to leave the race, and slot holders scrapping the barrel. As the old saying goes, "you pay your money, you take your chances". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 8:35 PM, Royal Nod said: Still think Cambridge should improve their every day stakes before they go putting $150k into a single race. I eventually agreed with this - by looks from last nite, unless it was a 1 off they have upt their stakes 👏 Minimum stakes last nite maiden $10,230. 2021 the last meeting ran had minimum Amateur race $6,5k & maiden $8.5k. Nice work Cambridge. Lets hope this stake raised is permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, karrotsishere said: I eventually agreed with this - by looks from last nite, unless it was a 1 off they have upt their stakes 👏 Minimum stakes last nite maiden $10,230. 2021 the last meeting ran had minimum Amateur race $6,5k & maiden $8.5k. Nice work Cambridge. Lets hope this stake raised is permanent. The next two meetings, next week, and the week after, stakes for 7 of the 10 races are only $9000. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 48 minutes ago, Double R said: The next two meetings, next week, and the week after, stakes for 7 of the 10 races are only $9000. Thanks for research. Bit dumb they cant keep raised stakes instead opting to put $150k of clubs money towards The Race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 On Boxseat Guerin was saying that he, himself was thinking about taking a slot. However due to being a host on Boxseat said something along the lines of was too much of conflict of interest as Boxseat promotes The Race, Cambridge Club is a sponsor etc. Stated due to fact he could claim it back as a tax expense due to working in Harness was worth a thought. Also spoke about a bunch of Top Aussie horses & said they ALL were if invited to a slot would consider coming horses, INCLUDING Spirit of St Louie. (pending Covid etc). Also said that the TOP entity for Harness in world or something or maybe in NZ was interested in getting a slot & that slot selection of whom would be chosen would be taking place soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Parsnip Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 8:53 PM, Wilfred said: Cambridge has real issues. Lack of horse numbers, lack of opportunities for juniors, poor stakes etc. It needs to start with the basics first, not go for the glitz and glamour. Honest decent heartland racing is the foundation of growth. It's about priorities 1) Do you know if Cambridge showed a profit from hosting the Jewels. 2) If yes, has this resulted in improvements in some areas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Parsnip Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 8:54 PM, Lightning Blue said: You need the Very Best in the country for a race of this magnitude. Not a hope in the world of getting off the ground with 'restricted' class horses. Some of those 6yo+ R40-49 races were very competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Parsnip Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 8:54 PM, Lightning Blue said: I guess it comes down to whether they let 3 year olds in the race , AKUTA will be dominant . Race distance is what? Date: Thursday April 14, 2022Venue: Cambridge RacewayDistance: 2200mGait: PaceAge: 3YO+Class: FFAPreferential Draw: 3YOs then Mares It seems safe to assume it is a mobile start .......... I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Blue Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Purple Parsnip said: Some of those 6yo+ R40-49 races were very competitive. I like to think of Every race as competitive. I quite like the 'Everest' Idea of buying Slots in a race , and 'doing a deal' with owners and trainers of various fantastic horses. It opens lots of doors, Communication between many racing supporters and 'Newbies' is achieved. The old mix with the new. Tis a good thing. Currently in Oz , we are voting on The ALLSTAR Mile , a thoroughbred race where Joe/Jane Public get one vote each to get a horse into the field , and then may win a prize if they get drawn as the ambassador for that runner. It's a bit like a 'freebie' vote to lure people in. One year a Munce horse had 1000 owners so easily got in the field with votes (from friends and families) didn't have a hope on class rating though , so was silly really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Parsnip Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Lightning Blue said: I quite like the 'Everest' Idea of buying Slots in a race , and 'doing a deal' with owners and trainers of various fantastic horses. The Everest is a brilliant idea and well suited to the market there. The 150k top up for the Cambridge Slot Race is way way short of what it needed to be based on the 75k slot holder fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 19 hours ago, Purple Parsnip said: 1) Do you know if Cambridge showed a profit from hosting the Jewels. 2) If yes, has this resulted in improvements in some areas? 1) They had the highest turnover in Jewels ever. 2) If one looks at it from the point of view based on that result, then they are proven in getting results off a glamour event, their marketing is up to the mark. Therefore from that perspective its a better bet to give them the green light to try it again to get another high turnover. In regards to the club itself no idea if it has had specific improvements in areas. Eg there doesn't appear to be any upgrades to facilities & stake money isn't up at that minimum $10k that it should be year round. They may have plans for improvement. Nothing I know has been made public if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) The Race is officially ON - 8 confirmed slots have been purchased as per HRNZ article. As its ON hope it is a success for them. However do also hope that in near future they raise minimum stakes all year round & also upgrade some facilities that are old & in need. Edited January 31, 2022 by karrotsishere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Not sure where to put this, the latest ALL Mic-ed Up - this time with D Butcher & Kango. Not his last race where he finished a nose behind South Coast Arden BUT his race prior where he lead & finished 3rd behind Self Assured. Another great watch & interesting listening to D Butcher & his planned tactics just prior race & during. Will put on this thread as Kango is on my list of runners for THE RACE. https://www.facebook.com/trackchatnz/videos/788596295338293 Edited January 31, 2022 by karrotsishere 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Blue Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, karrotsishere said: Not sure where to put this, the latest ALL Mic-ed Up - this time with D Butcher & Kango. Not his last race where he finished a nose behind South Coast Arden BUT his race prior where he lead & finished 3rd behind Self Assured. Another great watch & interesting listening to D Butcher & his planned tactics just prior race & during. Will put on this thread as Kango is on my list of runners for THE RACE. https://www.facebook.com/trackchatnz/videos/788596295338293 That is bloody brilliant Karrots. Shows one and all quite a few things. Like what it's like around at the start, How fast they are actually moving, the split second decisions needed, bit of race planning, How cool is Mark Purdon, how funny all the Butcher clan are, How good a horse is Self Assured (winning easily) . tip -top stuff ...!! Thanks for Posting !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 On Boxseat they reported that the biggest owner in NZ or 1 of biggest owners in NZ has purchased a Slot. Also the biggest or 1 of the biggest in world corporations (think they mean racing - but not sure -may not be) has purchased a slot. They have put back the close date of applications a week, to wait for the Govt announcement when border will open. To give those Internationals thinking of getting a slot assurance if they would be able to come to NZ in April for it or not (2 slots). They also said that connections of AMAZING DREAM, were seriously thinking about coming. As if NO 3yos she would automatically get draw barrier 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Blue Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, karrotsishere said: They also said that connections of AMAZING DREAM, were seriously thinking about coming. As if NO 3yos she would automatically get draw barrier 1 Yes I believe the American owners are happy with all her earnings 'Down-under' The freight to America is very expensive at the current time. Might as well keep getting cheques down here. Hell ! even come back to Brissy in Winter where she won the 2 group 1's and 1/4 mill last Winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) On 1/3/2022 at 5:06 PM, karrotsishere said: Latest updated list 1. KING OF SWING 2. SELF ASSURED 3. SOUTH COAST ARDEN 4. STEEL THE SHOW 5. LAVER 6. KANGO 7. KRUG 8. BD JOE 9. BETTORS TWIST 10. PEMBROOKE PLAYBOY E1. LOCH ART E2 DI CAPRIO E3 BAD TO BONE E4 HOT N T Re-checking compiled possible list. Didn't have Vintage Cheddar down. Note he has been sold & exported to Aussie. So not a The Race potential. Edited February 10, 2022 by karrotsishere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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