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Heard about this Gallops trainer. Prob the only Gallops story Iv heard.
That he treated his staff poorly.
A specific example of this was a stablehand cut their finger. Nearly off while at work & he refused to take the person to hospital & suggested they could keep working. The person called their partner, who came as soon as possible & took the person to hospital. The partner said aint no way you are going back to work for that fella any longer, enough is enough! That person quit & moved on.
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On 2/3/2024 at 9:29 PM, Rusty said:
Got off light.
Heres another article on it. Says he took a truck of horses to races, but was refused entry.
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On 1/29/2024 at 7:09 PM, karrotsishere said:
1. Swayzee in paddock may never race again.
2. Majestic Cruiser retired will never race again. Lost form soon after NZ Cup.
3. Boncel Benjinman has a different trainer, never performed the same after Intedom win. Runs down track.
4. Betterzzipit has never repeated same G1 win. Running down track.
5. Cast No Shadow another to add to list.
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A lifetime ban for B Yole. Says he can appeal it. If you take a look under his profile he hasnt had a runner for a number of days & no runners anytime soon. Lightning recall u saying u wrote into Tasmania stewards, racing & so on to no avail.
Better late than never. If you take a look up this thread a new rule indicated no trainer to have more than 1/2 field pending conditions such as if race wouldnt get off ground. A race tomorrow all scratched bar 1. Inhightsight should they have implemented that rule without conditions?
1 horse fields yesterday too. Yay the good guys win :-)
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1 hour ago, Lightning Blue said:
They doing ok , Spirit of St Louis seems to go all distances.
A very nice Sweet Lou who ran places all last season in the Sires stakes 3 year old races has just resumed racing.
If you can see a replay , check out DANGEROUS race 1 last Saturday at Melton. A beautiful animal. (got put of the draw misbehaving fresh lol 😅) but apart from that , he is going to be winning a fair few 4 year old races this season. I think the Sweet Lou's may stay better than the Captain Treacherous eventually.
I guess with Leap To Fame , Lazarus , Akuta, Tiger Tara and a gazillion other bold stayers , it's hard to beat a 'Bettors Delight' anytime soon.
Yea if I take $50k spend Id go for 6 Lous over 2 Bettors. Much better chance of winning my $ + making a profit. Sheez 1 could sell for $50+ to an Aussie. Then Id still have 5 left. Away & laughing.
Take Camb results today.
5 starters
2 winners Lou Baby (fav), Sharkies Girl
2 3rds Irresistible, Christoper Dance (fav)
1 4th McKendrick (fav)
Christopher Dance big offers Iv heard. Turned down to date. A $7k weanling purchase, Mandra Blue a weanling $1,500k purchase, the list goes on.
Cant please some people hey Lightning. So easy to turn $1k - $10k into $50k + easy. Wonder who else was smart enough & has done this ... ?
No other news from me. Nice chatting old mate. Hope all is well. Beauty weather here. Cooler in Northern Hemisphere.
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18 minutes ago, Lightning Blue said:
They were Strong in the Nz Derby in December running the quinella. so will be well seasoned by November. and tough to beat.
The 4th horse in the Derby is a very good horse. just For you Karrots , a northIslander, by Sweet Lou , with a lady trainer . ran 2nd to DSD in October in a Group 1 at Addington beating Merlin (who ran 3rd) ... went very well when driven by Mark one day for Arna , and 2 top runs for Zac too. Only problem is David Butcher best driving days are well behind him and he gets lots of horses beat . including Joliemont a few times. ( e.g sat there like a 'stale bottle' in the Derby instead of chasing him up a bit)
If JOLIEMONT progresses on , looks a real promising stayer . Early tip for the Cup . (get Nat to drive it though 😁)
Thats Globes mates horse.
Hear some trainers like Lous for their high speed, but others say they have speed but lack stamina. I get what they mean. Still pretty good results & value for $. In States he is much more plus mile racing which suits Lous.
Heard there is a person or 2 off to court soon, oh dear. Hopefully mainstream media dont report on it.
Hear on good authority, ATC lost an employee unpaid wage disbute at small tribunal sometime last year. Not sure amount but possibly between $50k - $100k. But ATC have put in an appeal. Appeal to be held sometime this year Im told.
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So hear Pukekohe has been sold. Deposit has been paid. Guess that means its unconditional. Hence the new million $ race meeting in Nov, ATC are having they will have $ to pay for it themselves.
I think new race meeting is a good idea, worth a try, something different. As last time I was here, status quos wasnt working.
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On 1/25/2024 at 11:18 PM, Lightning Blue said:
Hope your travels are going well Karrots.
The battle continues for the harness industry , and yes the Aussie raider Trainer Grimson/ Driver Cam Hart , did manage to win the NZ CUp this time round after running 2nd t the previous year with Majestic Cruiser behind Copy That. SWAYZEE taking the win .
I thought AKUTA was a certainty but had his chance trailing Swayzee into the home straight and then couldn't over-haul him.
The Interdominion was held in December at Albion Park . The famous other BIG race after the Nz Cup and Miracle Mile .
Our local champ here LEAP TO FAME wiped the floor with them in near world record . Wahoo !! whatta ripper he is. and his trainer Grant is such a Top bloke fully deserving. Better Eclipse was 2nd, with Swayzee 3rd for Grimson and old mate Spirit of St Louis 4th . The best 4 in the series.
Can't see Republican Party winning the Cup ? but ya never know unless ya havva go is what they say.
Akuta got injured and not coming to Aus for the Big Group 1's on soon . Still sending the 4 yearold though , Don't Stop Dreaming. he surprisingly got beat in the Nz Derby in December, by Queensland owned Merlin trained by Barry Purdon and Phelan. so might find a few Aussies hard to beat next month if Merlin can beat him.
Thanx Lightning & thanx for update.
So who will beat Republican Party? Isnt Akuta out as you say & wont be back in full fitness for Cup? Shame Akuta didnt win NZ Cup.
Lets put Grimson to the side.
Hypothetically, put Akuta & Grimson aside who beats Republician Party? Are you thinking Merlin or Dont Stop Dreaming? So DSD got beaten by Merlin. Ok. So are you thinking Merlin? Thought he was a front runner horse? If not who?
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On 1/25/2024 at 11:17 PM, Globederby19 said:
Best horse on the day Karrots. Everyone else had their chance. Oh, and by the way , send pictures.😉
Where is Swayzee now? Hear may not race again. True or false horse was so exhausted lying down in stall following days was scratched from FFA? But doesnt matter as Grimson took NZ Cup 1st place trainers winning $. He must be a millionare by now with all his G1 wins trainers fee, with old average horses.
Not forgetting he was pinged for betting against his own runner when he 1st started training. What did he change? Gear changes & vitamins? That has given these horses sudden massive stamina?
On a different note at Meadowlands Stripes are allowed to test horses anytime at all. A week out a month out. Whenever, its great.
Where are these G1 winners of Grimson now after the quick sudden raise as aged horses? Some quick research.
1. Swayzee in paddock may never race again.
2. Majestic Cruiser retired will never race again. Lost form soon after NZ Cup.
3. Boncel Benjinman has a different trainer, never performed the same after Intedom win. Runs down track.
4. Betterzzipit has never repeated same G1 win. Running down track.
A pattern is emerging.
Who will be Grimsons next aged donkey to win a G1? & soon after run down track, then soon after retire or be shipped off to a new trainer.
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Sorry to hear Grimson won NZ Cup. Felt strongly about not wanting that Fella to win. Apologises to those if Iv been vocal whom dont see it as I do.
While Im back in NZ briefly, here is some positive news Iv heard.
ATC have announced an initiative that they will fund themselves. 1 million dollars up for grabs, spread amoungst 10 races & its ratings based. Great idea & incentive.
Some not so great news a lovely fella from North I know got beaten up while on track. Saddened to hear sickening perputrators attacked him from behind. Handed his licence in. Alleged guilty party went for diverson in court.
NZ HOF hear is coming along with leaps & bounds. Guess an update will be inevidable.
Hear Republician Party is a great chance to win NZ Cup Next Year.
Hear CEO & Racing/Marketing Manager are leaving HRNZ.
Poster Mike breed & owned, a nice horse figured out who she is. She will win 1 soon. Very unlucky in her 1st start, started favourite too! Go Mikes horse.
Yes Poster Mike, Chief was Noodlum. He admitted to me in a PM email.
Hear Super Stable Competiton, is super cool,but needs amendements, as goes too long, & heaps of horses at end go for spell. So it ends it being more about luck than good selections
Hope all is well with all. Happy New Year :-)
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On 8/25/2023 at 7:07 AM, Double R said:
I popped into Alexandra Park yesterday, and sadly the Hall of Fame building has been demolished, and only a concrete pad is all that remains.
At least, all the contents were removed, and like a submarine, will surface again, at some stage.
Any news or updates here with Hall of Fame?
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Posted about this must of been 6 months to a year ago. Thought at time it would of made news then. But nothing. So removed post.
Word is spreading quickly again hearing same thing.
Anyone else heard anything?
On another note the road to the NZ Cup has started which is positive industry news? Who will win?
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On 9/12/2023 at 7:39 PM, Happy Sunrise said:
Gear changes? An increase in work?
I backed Swayzee in the Cup because he would be training it. Majestic Cruiser was enormous last year. No reason why Swayzee would be any different.
I was told to get on the bandwagon so I did. Greed talks.
Oh yes get on Swayzee. Not the best horse obviously.
Yea had a mate that backed Cruiser in NZ Cup & tells me would of won had South Coast Arden not stopped in his lap, held him up. Again not because Cruiser was the best horse.
Its most interesting how zero of these horses came up thru the age groups. Just suddenly as aged horses go to him & wala. Then after the miracle wins, are just as quickly off the scene.
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9 hours ago, Lightning Blue said:
A very sad situation Karrots. Sometimes horses change stables in very awkward circumstance.
Anthony Butt lost all his good horses once here in Oz with an owner dispute. Even after running 3rd in the Miracle Mile with one of their horses Wolf Stride.
Tim Butt had trained at NSW before shifting here to QLD 2 -3 years ago and Grimson had driven SWAYZEE as a 2 year old at Menangle for him when still trained by Tim. so Grimson knew of some ability the horse had. (Not quite enough to win a Group 1 (in most people's opinion)..... as had run unplaced in low class Midweek racing for Tim Butt for 8 starts , immeadiately before Grimson took the horse earlier in year, and the Grimson style Miraculous transformation happened and the many 'Wins in a row' quickly happened.
The 2 x Grimson trained runners won Easily at very short well supported odds just last Saturday night Menangle. Nz Battler BUBBA SCRUB and rapid improver HI MYNAMEISJEFF . the later one ran 1.49 mile winning by 6 lengths first up for Grimson prior start !!😳 Maybe he'll turn up back here at Albion for the December $1million Interdominion after all ?? and let's hope he avoids the fighting this time round 😂.
Yes these miraculous transformations are occuring in 3 weeks. Thats the golden time. No more time is needed. No less will do the trick.
When he had his stable in retention it was short of 3 weeks. It was just 2 weeks.
Re stats dont lie, he started training season 2015/2016. From then threw to season 2020 he had average results. He even got disqualified 2017 for betting against mutiple of own horses he trained whilst driving them as per link.
https://harnesslink.com/australia/inquiry-conducted-mr-jason-grimson/
Then suddenly season 2021 a massive change in results & stake money & winning. What didnt change was the type of horse he had, still had the same old used tired nags. No big new owners or young gun well breed horse. BUT a sudden massive change in results & winning Group races with old nags. Winning approx $1.5 mil each season since. Hes now won $5 mil with majority of the winnings from 2021 til now. Taking a look at his stake money winning from 2015 - 2020 & its low.
What has he started doing from 2021 to get this amazing results? That take 3 weeks to sharply improve a horse?
Now he not only doesnt bet against his own runners as he did 2017, but he is suddenly sooo confident. Too confident in his charges in interviews. Doesnt need to stable drive, doesnt need to worry about if they will get a tough run. Why? Doesnt need big owners or well breed horses either. Yet still now oozes with unusual rare to be seen confidence. Why? Whats his magic trick?
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On 8/26/2023 at 11:55 AM, karrotsishere said:
How about the blow to Grimson 🤣
They have either photoshopped Butts colours onto him or selected a pic of all of the pix of him, where he is wearing them lol.
Not sure anyone got that. Russo is allegedly Butts daughters BF. Grimson got an owner of his to purchase Swayzee & take him from Butt.
Read stewards report & also statements made at hearing. It all started by Russo & others making verbal comments. (Backed up by fact many others unrelated had made comments on track directly after win).
An associate of Grimsons was 1st to make physical contact, he slapped Russo across face. Russo retaliated striking at group of 3. Trainor striked him back. Security came in quick within 2 mins to restrain Russo. Grimson then came & king hit Russo while he was being held back. Hence his 12 month disqualfication. All 4 involved have been disqualfied or put out for 3, 6 months or 12 months. (It was all caught on CCTV footage at Creek bar).
Am awaiting Spitty - Spitfire to come out of retirement. Grimson to take him & he will seriously potentially be a Group 1 winner too!!! Grimson is amazing. Under his trainership anything is possible. He can turn slow aged horses into Group 1 winners! Results speak for themselves. Stats dont lie. Truely amazing stuff!
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13 minutes ago, Lightning Blue said:
Yes , would of been an absolute certainty of all time to Appeal.
No way that Ya would just " Cop That on the Chin " ..... hahahaha😉
How about the blow to Grimson 🤣
They have either photoshopped Butts colours onto him or selected a pic of all of the pix of him, where he is wearing them lol.
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@Hesi when I log on which nowadays isnt often, there is a red triangle says account warning too many messages & inbox cant take it.
Also literally everything keeps being marked as unread, even when Iv read posts on here.
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On 8/24/2023 at 5:29 PM, Lightning Blue said:
Geeez thats all a bit sad Karrots. 🥲 Didn't see a pimple about it here in QLD about it on the news. Football players are all trained/educated to handle hecklers during their playing days , as is very common for 'fuelled up' fans to make comments un-becoming and/confront players when an opportunity arises.(drinking locations usually lol) I think the Broncos and Lions and that are banned from attending pubs and clubs unless in restricted admission areas.
Grimson shouldn't of reacted by the sound of it. 🥲 sad for young kiwi lad Jack Trainor as well, getting tangled in it. Got to be VERY CAREFUL how you celebrate wins these days ....
Really old mate Lightening. Nothing. How odd. I simply googled name once off yesterday & it ALL popped up. Was in multiple stories. But all paid, had to subscribe.
Yes well it is what it is it. And cant change the past now. Both disqualified.
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23 hours ago, Globederby19 said:
Do you not read yr messages Karrots. have sent you a few outlining wins by Sweet Lou,s.
Correct Globie. Not getting them. Plus having trouble logging in not sure how much longer Ill be able to log in. Suspect not much longer. Not Raceplace faults. AI. All good Ill post a few more times then ghost off into the shadows ;-)
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If you google Grimson this pops up. The blame game, after his cowardly forceful blow to A Russo Brisbane Racing Employee at the Creek Bar after his outsider Swayzee won a Grand Circuit Race beating local favourite Leap to Fame & many male locals gave him lip to his face alleging he is a drug cheat. This is how he retaliates. Hits a man that is being held back by security. Has the cheek to say he is the one that has been abused.
"Over the whole time (in the harness industry) I have been considered a drug cheat by integrity people and by people in the industry which has led to this," Grimson told stewards. "I have worked hard to get where I am, I started with nothing and then I get abused.
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J Grimson is disqualified.
A Bullock is suspended.
Sweet Lous are winning.
Any other positive news peeps? 😀
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Here we go some more good news. A Bullock has been suspended. As per my post just above. That dude.
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On 7/21/2023 at 6:31 PM, Globederby19 said:
Kowhai Nugget, in at 5,s. Finally got driven like a winner.
Its a Sweet Lou. Wow wee check out all the wins the Sweet Lous are having.
Globie and I told y"ll so.
Watch this space. More to come.
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How much did you collect?
Who is his next new sudden star that you are going to get onboard?
Heard they tried to pull some sort of a Phar Lap. Where they scratched the horse from FFA, but due to pure exhaustion & just before scratching someone from his crew bet heavily on Akuta to win FFA as no scratching reductions. But wait for it, heard the bet wasnt a winning one hahaha.