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Just discovered a double page of results fron BEST BETS dated2/10/71

J.C.HUTTON Handicap

1 Skint Dip   Winders i think


3 Not Again



6.Arrivederci in a photo with Monty.

Also says Winners in Oct 1970 Arrivederci Te Rapa Hcp 11 f .

Also thinking he was not sired by Alcimedes,was thinking of another Winder horse Archimedes.

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7 minutes ago, Ashoka said:

ngakonui grass,

Skint Dip finished fourth to Silver Knight, Igloo and Tails in the 1971 Melbourne Cup, I believe.

All the best.


What horse am i thinking of.Also trained by Winder and ridden in the Cup by N D Riordan after Ron Taylor had been suspended.

While writing this it just popped into my head.

Strike Again. Once again apologies.

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Skint Dip by Le Filou out of Glorytime by Summertime

Followed 13f Valley Cup
win Oct 23 with Impressive
win lOf at wfa Mackinoon
Stakes FIcm Sat. Solid stayer
at peak of form.
FIFTH* Oct 2/71. TE
AROHA CNZ) Hcrries Memorial
Cup. 1m 3f. 8.13 (R. W. Tavlor
5), 15 sirs. Limit 8.6. Time 2.20
2-5. Track slow. Brookby Hill
8.1 (K. S. Cullcn 11) l» Sup
reme Quality 7.8 (m. r, Mus
lin 1) 2, Yogi Bear 7.8 (B. F.
Andrews 10) 3.
WON. Oct 23/71, len, 2 len,
8.10 (R. Higgins 8), 15 sirs.
Limit 7.0. Time 2.45 1-10.
Track rood. STARTED 5/1
<fav). Noiraud 7.11 (F. Keys 4)
2, Double Irish 8.1 inc 2 ov
(R. Mallyon 6) 3. Pilgarlic 7.11
4, Glen Lang 7.10 inc 1 ov 5.
Sweet Hippy 7.6 6. 3rd last
caTly, commenced run from
near rear at 5f, hit lead at 2f
and came away io straight to
win well.
WON Oct 30/71, -%Ien, sh Vi
hd FLEM1NC.TON MacKinnon
Stk WFA lOf, 9.4 (R. Higgins
😎 9 strs. Set weights Time 2'
1.6 Track good. STARTED 13-4
firmed 4-1 to 3-1 then eased.
Silver Knight 9.0 (11. Marsh 6)
2» Pilgarlc 9.0 (A. Trevena 1) 3,
Rajah Sahib 9.4 (H Whte) 4,
Arctic Symbol 9.4 (A. McLean)
5. Always handy and raced to
front at half furlong to win
easing down.


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13 minutes ago, Ashoka said:

ngakonui grass,

I think that the horse that you may be thinking of is "Not Again". I believe that the prominent owner of this horse previously raced a top-class galloper called "Terrific", who had a nightmare campaign in Australia and so, in the hope of avoiding a repeat, named his next horse as such. "Not Again" was a top-class racehorse in his own right.

Please believe me, there is no need to apologise. We all make the odd mistake when recalling the long ago, and your reference to great horses of the past delights me and allows me to indulge myself in a brief reverie.


Just been reading Noel Riordans obiturary in the Te Awamutu Courier .

Strike Again was the horse  and W.C Winder trained it.Owner wanted a picture of his horse going past the post first and they got it.

Not Again and Terrific both owned by Dr McGregor Grant and trained by Merv Ritchie.

Terrific failed in Aus and when Not Again went over headlineread" Oh no not again" given that they werewell hyped.

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