Hesi Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just a quick tally up from the NZTR website Aug 22 - March 23 13.4 mil Aug 23 - March 24 17.7 mil Comparable period only as stake money levels not available past March 24 An increase of 32% In addition, throw in the SI race in April 24 for horses only trained in the SI of 350K, and a doubling of the stake for the Southern Mile, which I presume is run in the SI, from 100 to 200K. Yes at Wingatui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hesi said: Just a quick tally up from the NZTR website Aug 22 - March 23 13.4 mil Aug 23 - March 24 17.7 mil Comparable period only as stake money levels not available past March 24 An increase of 32% In addition, throw in the SI race in April 24 for horses only trained in the SI of 350K, and a doubling of the stake for the Southern Mile, which I presume is run in the SI, from 100 to 200K. Yes at Wingatui You seem to place a high importance on stake as opposed to interest. And development of infrastructure, process, skills - what money is being spent there. Interest will not increase because stakes increase. That is a given. It needs to have the fundamentals of course management, processes around racing. integrity and skills in order to make the racing more attractive to potential parties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 No, you are jumping to conclusions. It was actually a post in response to Freda's comment that the improvement in stakes did not seem to have filtered down to the SI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Agree with Mardi, clubs have to make racing a go to place for entertainment during the races and after the last IMHO racing missing the hit big time …. Let’s start with first race 1.30pm last race 5.00pm …. Quick fire and introduce younger folk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted December 10, 2023 Author Share Posted December 10, 2023 He wasn't actually saying that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Think he was via processes etc One thing for sure no changes and nothing changes and throwing $ will not change a thing other than maintain interest for participants but they the participants don’t pay the way …. More power to the punter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Hesi said: No, you are jumping to conclusions. It was actually a post in response to Freda's comment that the improvement in stakes did not seem to have filtered down to the SI Wasn't actually referring solely to stakes. After all, there were plenty on offer Cup meeting. Its the structure and opportunity that frustrates down here, the unsuitable dates, programmes that don't suit, stakes are not really the issue, it's the chance to compete that is being dumbed down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Freda said: Wasn't actually referring solely to stakes. After all, there were plenty on offer Cup meeting. Its the structure and opportunity that frustrates down here, the unsuitable dates, programmes that don't suit, stakes are not really the issue, it's the chance to compete that is being dumbed down. It's not that difficult an exercise to change either. Instead of pre-defining race programmes, make the programmes reflect the demand. A number on here have described ways of doing this which are not overly cumbersome. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 That's like the US model that has been in place for decades, if not longer. Pretty simple really. The condition book is the schedule of races for a given track during a certain period of time, usually a few weeks or a month. It is this schedule that provides a framework for trainers to develop the training regimens for their horses for this time period. While this seems straightforward, there are a number of factors that can change the timing of races. You see, just because a race is in the condition book doesn’t mean that enough horses will enter the race to warrant it being used. That is why you’ll see substitute races in the book as well. These are races that also get entries and can be used in place of another race on the card. Fortunately, stakes schedules are typically published weeks or months ahead of time, so with certain horses planning ahead is much easier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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