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Hesi

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It wouldn't be a World Cup year without a loss or two this time of year! Shaping up scarily similar to 2015 especially with the final Bledislow match to follow at Eden Park.

The northern hemisphere lot are leaving their warmups late, Wales have 2 x England and 2 x Ireland warmups still to play. I gather the Wales Ireland games may be more of a squad fixture. Not ideal imo .. prefer the southern hemisphere warmup of a hard Rugby Championship followed by (in the AB's case) a single match v Tonga.

 

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A work in progress

3 teams, all SH, have dominated the RWC, AB's, Aus and SA

The only NH team to win has been England

France have made 3 finals, England 2

Wales at best has finished 3rd and 4th

Ireland, for all it's good form in 6 nations and other, has never made the last 4

The AB's do not have those once in a generation players like McCaw, Carter and Kaino, also the experience of Conrad Smith, Nonu, Julian Savea.  They will cut the lesser teams to ribbons, but the top teams seem to have found their measure.  The results to date show that.

Too much player rotation?

Argentina the dark horse

The usual also rans, who might cause one upset, like Scotland

 

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22 hours ago, Sandpiper said:

How would you price it up Hesi? Currently it is

ABs 2.6

England 7

Wales 10

Ireland 10

Boks 6.2

Wallabies 15

France 40

Scotland 65

Argies 50

 

I might even up the top 6, perhaps something like

ABs 3.4

England 7

Wales 8

Ireland 8

Boks 8

Wallabies 10

 

I will have a 100 bucks worth of the BOKs at 8,s. My dark horse for the Cup.

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POOL A

IRELAND

SCOTLAND

JAPAN

RUSSIA

SAMOA

 

POOL B

NEW ZEALAND

SOUTH AFRICA

ITALY

NAMIBIA

CANADA

 

POOL C

ENGLAND

FRANCE

ARGENTINA

USA

TONGA

 

POOL D

AUSTRALIA

WALES

GEORGIA

FIJI

URUGUAY

Winners/runners up Pools A and B, C and D play off in the quarters/semis

I'll wait till after Sat to see if Aus can duplicate their effort at Eden Park, not necessarily win, before putting up my market

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It's hard to shake the feeling that Ian Foster is being lined up as the next AB coach and equally hard to escape the feeling that he is the cause of a lot of the problems with the ABs at the moment.

I'm struggling to work out how he's ended up in this favoured position based on his largely uninspiring coaching record.

Others may disagree.

It's also impossible to understate how important Brodie Retallick is at the moment. It's all gone quiet on his expected return which is slightly ominous.

 

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My market, I still have the AB's as fave, but a bit longer, as while any AB team is a good one, I don't think this is a great one

AB - 5

Aus, Boks - 7

England, Wales - 8

Ireland - 12

France, Argentina - 15

Scotland - 50

Italy - 100

Japan, Samoa, USA, Tonga, Fiji, Canada - 250

Georgia, Uruguay, Russia, Namibia - 500

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On 8/11/2019 at 2:29 PM, Sandpiper said:

It wouldn't be a World Cup year without a loss or two this time of year! Shaping up scarily similar to 2015 especially with the final Bledislow match to follow at Eden Park.

 

Its omious amd Ive seen enough!

ABs 2.2

England 9

Wales 11

Ireland 10

Boks 6

Wallabies 12

France 24

Scotland 50

Argies 50

 

 

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On 8/24/2019 at 10:43 AM, Sandpiper said:

Its omious amd Ive seen enough!

ABs 2.2

England 9

Wales 11

Ireland 10

Boks 6

Wallabies 12

France 24

Scotland 50

Argies 50

 

 

You might have to shorten up England and lengthen Ireland after last night's drubbing

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3 hours ago, Sandpiper said:

Weird scoreline that after the Eng Wales results. Im basically confused about all the NH's prospects now.

NH ookies pro equally confused when Oz smashed us in Perth ...take no notice, mate!

AB's worthy favourites ahead of S Af, England, Wales, Ireland, Australia and France the spoiler a la 2007

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  • 1 month later...

Wasn't even close was it.  The promising newcomers, when the real pressure went on did not deliver.

Greatest selection mistake of all time, not having Beauden Barrett as the pivot.  For all his skills, Mounga was missing in action and the transcendental skills of Barrett wasted at fullback.

Well done England, even though they grate

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End of an era methinks.

Rettalick didn't get into the game.

Whitelock to busy with off the ball issues.

Sonny Bill over rated for years,

Barrett in wrong position

Mounga not the bright light we were led to believe he was

Read imo still hesitant after back surgery 

ditto for Cane

The win against Ireland led them into a false sense of Security,Ireland were crap against Japan.

Too many people believed all the Media Hype instead of actually assessing the All Blacks without tinted glasses on.

England were great/grate.

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