Dancing Show Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Okay time to get serious 😆 .... Atrevida .. and the sire was The Expatriate standing at Field House ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) another guess then - The Expatriate? Buggar - I never saw the serious one's answer above! 😭 Edited November 17, 2022 by von Smallhaussen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, Dancing Show said: Okay time to get serious 😆 .... Atrevida .. and the sire was The Expatriate standing at Field House ? Who was the stallion that they stood by the same sire ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Zamazaan I presume, but the way I've been going lately that may also get a No 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 The only other one that comes to mind is Smuggler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dancing Show said: The only other one that comes to mind is Smuggler. what about Poil de Chameau? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I think Zamazan stood at Carlyle Stud for Keith Burley thats not to say he wasn't at matamata at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Dancing Show said: Okay time to get serious 😆 .... Atrevida .. and the sire was The Expatriate standing at Field House ? You win Maria ! Yes the mare in the photo was Atrevida and the stallion was The Expatriate, by Zamazaan's sire Exbury. Stood at Field House by Benji. Sired just 119 foals in 6 crops, 65 of whom raced of which 35 were winners: Leading Progeny Landsberry Lane (85c, Mussorgsky, Resurgent). 7 wins from 1400m to 2200m, A$53,856, 1st WRC Winter Oats H., 2nd WRC Winter Oats H., WRC Terrace Regency Winter Oats H., WRC Majestic Horse Transport H., 3rd Otago RC Dunedin Gold Cup, Gr.3, WRC Parliamentary H., L, 4th WRC President's H., L Rustic Flight (87f, Marceau, Ayrshire Bard). 8 wins from 1400m to 1600m, A$25,517, 1st ARC Waste Management P., CJC Funeral Services H., WRC Pukerua Bay H., CJC Trial S., 2nd HBJC Fosters Sprint H., 3rd Wairarapa RC Wairarapa Thoroughbred Breeders' S., L Exiled Son (84c, Alcimedes, Marco Polo II). 4 wins from 1600m to 2100m, A$44,260, 1st AJC Chinese New Year H., AJC Series H., AJC Paddy Prendergast H., 2nd AJC Neil McKenna H., 3rd STC Laurel Welter H. Shudan (84g, Imperialist, Oncidium). 4 wins from 1200m to 1600m, A$26,335, 1st ARC Gib Board H., Waikato RC Bassenthwaite H., 2nd Avondale JC Portage Trust H., Avondale JC DB Draught H., 3rd Avondale JC Kareed Link Cup Go Do Seong Jang (85c, Karayar, Golden Plume). 6 wins at 1900m Cho Yeun (87g, Sharivari, Aberconway). 5 wins at 1400m Mount Hutton (84c, Golden Plume, Dogger Bank). 5 wins from 1600m to 2800m, A$17,450 Carrera (84g, Pakistan II, Rousseau's Dream). 4 wins at 1200m Jon Patrice (85c, Bellissimo, Copenhagen II). 4 wins from 1600m to 2000m, A$10,479 Jeon Ram Hoe (86f, Alcimedes, Old Soldier). 4 wins at 1400m Gyo du Bo (85f, Space Bird, Targui). 4 wins at 1200m Prince Nomadic (86g, Silver Dream, Head Hunter). 4 wins from 1400m to 1430m, A$18,395 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 Okay this one's a bit left field: In 1968 there were two stallions with the exact same name standing approx. 500kms (as the crow flies) from each other. One was a Classic winner in NZ and the other was a grandson of Precipitation. Who were they ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, PWJ said: You win Maria ! Yes the mare in the photo was Atrevida and the stallion was The Expatriate, by Zamazaan's sire Exbury. Stood at Field House by Benji. Sired just 119 foals in 6 crops, 65 of whom raced of which 35 were winners: Leading Progeny Go Do Seong Jang (85c, Karayar, Golden Plume). 6 wins at 1900m Cho Yeun (87g, Sharivari, Aberconway). 5 wins at 1400m Jeon Ram Hoe (86f, Alcimedes, Old Soldier). 4 wins at 1400m Gyo du Bo (85f, Space Bird, Targui). 4 wins at 1200m Going by some of those names I think there is every chance The Expatriate saw out his days in Korea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, PWJ said: Okay this one's a bit left field: In 1968 there were two stallions with the exact same name standing approx. 500kms (as the crow flies) from each other. One was a Classic winner in NZ and the other was a grandson of Precipitation. Who were they ??? Forearmed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Forearmed 🙂 Remember Epidaurus? Loved that name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 Not Forearmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Roman Consul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, PWJ said: Not Forearmed Premonition's other sons then - Portofino or Water Diviner? Edited November 17, 2022 by von Smallhaussen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 4 hours ago, von Smallhaussen said: Premonition's other sons then - Portofino or Water Diviner? The son of Precipitation in this case was NOT Premonition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 hours ago, ngakonui grass said: Roman Consul? Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 OK - will try Final Court then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, von Smallhaussen said: OK - will try Final Court then? Nope.....will Santa's reindeer land on your roof this Christmas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Stipulate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, ngakonui grass said: Stipulate Nope. Loved the old boy though Today's clue. There is a 3rd stallion with the same name (as the two stallions standing in 1968) standing today at one of the world's leading stud farms ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Bivouac ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dancing Show said: Bivouac ? No ! I had forgotten about him ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 Another big clue - one of these stallions sired a Wellington Cup winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Sobig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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