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2 hours ago, Purple Parsnip said:

very underrated horse

even self confessed experts got egg on their faces

Hahaha, yes. How good was it when Spitty finally got his 1st win. And then to top it off a 2nd win to finish his career in fine fashion.

Not the 1st time the self confessed expert has got it wrong & it won't be his last.

Helping Emily Blunt GIF by The Animal Crackers Movie

 

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4 hours ago, Forbury said:

Mark Jones is the best trainer in NZ as he's not a cheat and a outstanding horseman.hes my idol!

I didn't say he was. Bella Button could always trot. He has got it going great. 

There are certain horses who could do with a change of trainer to see how good they actually are. You see that when some go to Oz.

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Here is another - Thunderbirds are Go.

With Ladybird.

Race 2, Winton - Non win race - 065980 The Ladybird

17 starts 1 placing.

Changed stable to T Dewe, had 1 start for T Dewe last start. Suprising didnt win 1st up for him, but note race review - states it broke when traveling.

Race review  (3pegs, brk whn travelling trn)

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8 hours ago, karrotsishere said:

Here is another - Thunderbirds are Go.

With Ladybird.

Race 2, Winton - Non win race - 065980 The Ladybird

17 starts 1 placing.

Changed stable to T Dewe, had 1 start for T Dewe last start. Suprising didnt win 1st up for him, but note race review - states it broke when traveling.

Race review  (3pegs, brk whn travelling trn)

Ticks all the boxes, and I will be unleashing on this thing.

Rabobank are currently offering 6% on a term deposit, so anything over $1.10 represents real "value" here in my opinion. 

17 starts, 0 wins, 1 second, 0 thirds. 

Prior to last to last start, it was never favoured in any betting markets; 8/8, 13/13, 9/9 etc, etc. 

But nevermind all that.

Has one of the most talented horsemen, and one of the highest UDR trainers in any code, in any hemisphere, of all time, so fill ya boots and get amongst it I say. Bet with extreme confidence. It's almost a "maximum bet" job. 

Well spotted indeed Karrots. Cheers. 

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Thunderbirds are GO.

Betterzipit.

In true Thunderbird - Grimson fashion. He is going around telling people & telling journos & texing people that he cant see Betterzipit lose the big SLOT race West Australia. He has also said that Betterzip it is his best horse yet!

Also there was a rumour going around that Grimsons stable hand or close contact prior NZ Cup 2022 was going around telling people that Majestic Cruzier was a shoo in. (nearly won too 2nd!) came wide, wide and was still running. So pleased Copy That won!

Wonder why they were and are so confident????? Considering so many viables & this was prior the draw he was saying this. No idea if draw has been done yet. But A Butt said that now Grimson has stated this & its been made public, the Western trainers & drivers will give his horse s..t hahaha. Good. And if they get a chance to do what they did to Laz they will & post him 3 wide whole race if poss. Hahaha.

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On 4/6/2023 at 8:29 PM, Happy Sunrise said:

 

I have followed Gronkowski over recent months, I thought it might have gone ok on the coast but it was flat as a pancake. If it was running on it was barely noticeable. Poor G Smith must have had enough.

How will Gronkowski go Thurs Winton? Bad draw to over-come. Would have to loop the field at some stage & keep going. Not many horses can do that. Do you think Gronkowski can?

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14 minutes ago, karrotsishere said:

Do you think Gronkowski can?

Gronkowski needs to be tucked up in bed 3 back on the inner, then wakes up and sprints with 150m to go through the gaps that have appeared to win by a nose.

That was the old Gronkowski.

Now I see TAB Form says 'rates highly' from draw 14 over 2400m. 

That is the new Gronkowski.

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On 4/11/2023 at 11:19 AM, karrotsishere said:

Here is another - Thunderbirds are Go.

With Ladybird.

Race 2, Winton - Non win race - 065980 The Ladybird

17 starts 1 placing.

Changed stable to T Dewe, had 1 start for T Dewe last start. Suprising didnt win 1st up for him, but note race review - states it broke when traveling.

Race review  (3pegs, brk whn travelling trn)

Look Lightening, who is the owner of The Ladybird. Recall you saying A Bain is the top of 2nd top owner for B Yole. B Yole who currently has serious allegations made about him & his stable from ABC TV Australia. I just did a search on Profit site for his name A Bain & it pops up alot! Profit has written about him alot in a very negative manner. And well well well, now turns up as owner of a T Dewe runner. Just brought the horse & transferred it directly to T Dewe stable!

The Ladybird Owners:
Summit Bloodstock Pty Ltd, A Bain Racing Pty Ltd (as at 28-03-2023)
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12 hours ago, karrotsishere said:
The Ladybird Owners:
Summit Bloodstock Pty Ltd, A Bain Racing Pty Ltd (as at 28-03-2023)

 

54 minutes ago, Forbury said:

Look Lightening, who is the owner of The Ladybird. Recall you saying A Bain is the top of 2nd top owner for B Yole. B Yole who currently has serious allegations made about him & his stable from ABC TV Australia

Hi Karrots yes AaronBain is a South Australia trainer , who races horses through his 2 Bloodstock company names all around the country. Even has horses with Australia's Best trainer Emma Stewart. Puts the medium ones with medium trainers like in Brisbane has them with Narissa McMullen, and the low class slow ones end up at Yoles. 

Aaron is a pretty good horseman himself and wins a lot of races at home...Globe Derby park South Aus.

But it's just business with these 'BULK" cheap horses he picks up from all over for the abysmal Tasmanian racing scene. Yole in trouble yes ... RSPCA have cleared him initially as horses are fed and treated/ rugged and that standing out in those Freeeezing Tas nights open air. AND I do feel sorry for the guy in the regard that the allegations of Race Fixing HAVE TO HAPPEN when You have ALL the runners in a race.

Something that is happening more and more (he had 4 complete fields of 10-12 runners the other day) How can you NOT say you are NOT fixing the race  while you hand out the driving instructions ???   I'd feel like I was fixing the result as soon as you start off doing that , Same as anyone you would think ? 

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9 hours ago, Lightning Blue said:

Something that is happening more and more (he had 4 complete fields of 10-12 runners the other day) How can you NOT say you are NOT fixing the race  while you hand out the driving instructions ???   I'd feel like I was fixing the result as soon as you start off doing that , Same as anyone you would think ? 

Lol, yes agree. Funny when you put it like that.

10 hours ago, Forbury said:

I meet B yole in Tassie at the races very friendly man.

Oh how interesting, because the last I read & watched about him & his cohoots, his cohoots were giving a young lady death threads & she had to leave the race track escorted by security, they spoke about it at local parliament  We followed it on here in depth initially.

Take a look on the Animal Welfare, RSPCA & MPI thread. Alot of reading & video watching for you.

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The Ladybird form 65980 TAB seem to like this form, starts 2nd fav 3.80 - 1.40 or is it don't want to take any risks?

Gronkoski form 80552 TAB seem to like this form, starts fav 3.60 - 1.60 even off a BAD draw of 14 (26) or is it they don't want to take any risks?

Prides Bellissima form 97770 TAB seem to like this form, starts fav 2.20 - 1.30 or is it they don't want to take any risks?

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2 hours ago, karrotsishere said:

The Ladybird form 65980 TAB seem to like this form, starts 2nd fav 3.80 - 1.40 or is it don't want to take any risks?

Result WIN for The Ladybird.

Thunderbirds are GO.

Happy are we the thunderbirds or are they? Had to google Thunderbirds haha. Found this.

 

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1 hour ago, karrotsishere said:

Happy are we the thunderbirds or are they? Had to google Thunderbirds haha. Found this.

You are clearly a bit young to not know the Thunderbirds.

They are the thunderbirds. They could fly fast. Thunderbirds were actually a puppet show but not sure of the relevance of that fact lol

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1 hour ago, karrotsishere said:

Result WIN for The Ladybird

And Gronkowski goes huge for 2nd.

I wonder how the other trainers down South feel about it all. 

3 hours ago, karrotsishere said:

The Ladybird form 65980 TAB seem to like this form, starts 2nd fav 3.80 - 1.40 or is it don't want to take any risks?

Gronkoski form 80552 TAB seem to like this form, starts fav 3.60 - 1.60 even off a BAD draw of 14 (26) or is it they don't want to take any risks?

Prides Bellissima form 97770 TAB seem to like this form, starts fav 2.20 - 1.30 or is it they don't want to take any risks?

 

Risk-averse for sure and who can blame them? Makes a mockery of the game.

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1 hour ago, Happy Sunrise said:

And Gronkowski goes huge for 2nd.

I wonder how the other trainers down South feel about it all.

The one (make that 2 trainers with Sagwitch trainer last start defeating him) that beat him today , Nathan Williamson should be ok.? a wins a win. 

The 'GRON' has only one win in 20 starts. and they done their dough today. sounds an expensive commodity to me. 

Thunderbirds tv show had 'Lady' Penelope involved as well, so perhaps Karrots is bringing that into the Thunderbirds and todays LADYBIRD equation she was discussing . How was her win ? Did thet get a quid from that one ?

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Wow big run alright by Gronkowski. Started 2nd row 6. Charged forward, kept going forward 3 wide. Until finally parked, sat parked, then charged forward again to lead, then left them to it in the straight onto to be run down late. (see look people can see him charging forward 3 wide in screen still).

Haha ok got it re Thunderbirds. I just like saying Thunderbirds are GO. Thought maybe us with punting finding the tips. But alas no. The flying fast birds. Thats funny.

 

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On 4/12/2023 at 8:26 AM, karrotsishere said:

Betterzipit.

In true Thunderbird - Grimson fashion. He is going around telling people & telling journos & texing people that he cant see Betterzipit lose the big SLOT race West Australia. He has also said that Betterzip it is his best horse yet!

Also there was a rumour going around that Grimsons stable hand or close contact prior NZ Cup 2022 was going around telling people that Majestic Cruzier was a shoo in. (nearly won too 2nd!) came wide, wide and was still running. So pleased Copy That won!

Wonder why they were and are so confident????? Considering so many viables & this was prior the draw he was saying this.

Results time & see Betterzipit won other Slot Race.

Thunderbirds are Go.

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