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Be careful fellas, we have 8 women, that I know of, a cat, several other furry animals and an old woman, that read or post on this site

Surprisingly enough there are women out there that are right into their horse racing as well. Wouldn't that be bliss

Ever thought about trying an online dating site LB

Only just, if Territory Express did not appear in the last 20m to claim Detonator Jack, I had you and from a long way behind

It is going to be interesting to see the comment on this thread after Imperatriz races at WFA again tomorrow. I get an inkling, that if she wins well, then the extrapolation will be made, that weight does matter, even though it is only 1 race

Nasty cut to Rees Walsh last night. I put a $50 anytime try scorer bet on him (to pick up a $50 NRL bonus bet), and thought I had done my dough, but the TAB refunded the $50

Have you noticed that her voice goes up an octave when she thinks she has latched onto some new gossip A very ordinary broadcaster in my view

The only aspiration that I have, is that the site does not become a toxic environment, like so much social media, where anything goes, all in the name of click bating (misery attracts misery), but that people enjoy the site with the comps, discussion, punting threads, punters club and a few more things. We have some very skilled, knowledgeable and passionate racing people on the site, which is what makes the site what it is

That is very sad and sorry to hear LB. I hope the racing and this site will comfort you a little bit

Through my working life, one thing that I was taught that has stuck with me, more than anything else.......Speak with data And from what I can see, that is what Mardi, Barry and Curious are doing, and while it may be difficult for some/many to comprehend or accept things in racing that have gone back many years, the data speaks for itself. Add to that, they are applying this to punting and appear to be making money

By the way OM, you missed, the earth is flat, Covid was a conspiracy, the CIA arranged the shooting of Kennedy and organised 9/11 lol lol.

These guys (Mardi, Barry and Curious) have all the data to support their stance, as opposed to people's perceptions based on very little. Why wouldn't I concur with their reasoning. And I have a science background, so I fully understand the laws of physics. In fact I used to agree with the thinking that weight or extra distance run due to a wide barrier draw must have an affect. But these guys have crunched the data and shown the effect to be very minimal, and that there are many other factors that nullify the impact of weight or barrier

Hahaha, and something widely practiced in recent times, when all the know all's proudly announced 'I've done my own research' when it came to Covid, vaccines etc etc, when all they had done was look up stuff that agreed with their already entrenched beliefs

Most trainers have obtained their knowledge from working for a more senior experienced trainer, who obtained theirs in a similar manner and so on. So it is not beyond the realms of possibility that such beliefs have been passed down from an age, as mentioned in this thread, when there was a large weight spread and big weights were carried by horses.

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Impact being minimal in today's racing world being the key point. If you extrapolated it out and put a 50kg weight bag on a horse or 10kg in a backpack on a runner, of course their performance is going to decline, because they are going to have to expend so much more energy running the same distance than if there was not that extra weight

Hahaha SNAP

The laws of physics are exactly the same for horse and human, with weight or more correctly mass being part of calculating energy expended. But many other factors come into it, such as the capacity and efficiency of the circulation system to pump blood and therefore oxygen around the body. One of the reasons why there are many factors in determining winners other than barrier draw and weight carried. Phar Lap had a heart a lot bigger than average. Peter Snell had a resting heart rate in the 40's A shame horses can't talk lol

I guess applying the basic principles of physics, leads many to the conclusions they come to, namely 1. Carrying more weight, must mean more energy is expended which will result in the reduced performance as mass is part of any kinetic energy equation, E = 1/2 mv2 2. Running a slightly longer distance because of a wide barrier draw also means more energy expended so also the same effect on performance That this does not happen, suggests there are many other factors that influence performance

Scooby??

It would seem like lunacy to play our triple joker against the 2nd top team, and lamplighter for much of the comp and deservedly so. BUT, we actually beat you in the first round, so maybe not such a crazy idea

And I see that many of the critics still don't get what is happening in the racing industry with Entain. Yes, it is correct to say that they have no control over NZTR, but as I have said before, he who pays the piper plays the tune. Do people seriously think that all these 100's of millions of dollars that they are pouring into NZ racing, is being done without a close eye being kept on how and where it is spent. It is a no brainer, because if it is not spent correctly then wagering does not increase and Entain lose in the end, and they are not going to sit back watch that happen Cameron Rodger would be in regular contact with NZTR over where money should be going, the tracks issue and programming issues. As I have said before, pressure from Entain over the myriad of track issues, is probably what saw the end of Cameron George, and Bruce Sharrock will be next unless he pulls finger

In addition to the replies, they also make sense with regard to what they say about wagering The industry you are/or have been involved in BR, is funded by punter losses, so that is a hell of a lot of punters losing a lot of money. So, it makes sense to not do what all those other punters do, and look at different ways of appraising form, other than the accepted norms

As an aside, anyone getting angry when bets lose, should probably give it a miss