Addington Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 An update on the above cases from RIB Racing Integrity Board Investigation into recent horse fatalities regarding the Stonewall Stud of Steve and Amanda Telfer Category: News | Uncategorized Date: 09/01/2023 A thorough investigation has been concluded by the RIB staff into the race day deaths of three horses, Cya Doit, Alta Debonair and Seasider. There is no evidence to suggest that either Steve or Amanda Telfer, or any other persons associated with the horses prior to these races, have either deliberately or mistakenly, caused the unfortunate deaths of these three horses. The investigation, which included postmortem examinations, toxicology tests and expert opinions from several veterinary staff, determined that these deaths were the result of unrelated sudden medical events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) Well must give credit where credit is due. Well done to HRNZ leadership for implementing animal welfare standards! I say this as have been just reading online a TV expose to air soon about animal welfare in Tasmania Australia. The same journos who did that other TV doco on what happens to horses after racing in Oz - Queensland. The main person they are targeting is reported to be B Yole - isnt he Australias top trainer race winners, so will be a dreadful look overall for the industry in Australia. Suspect it will be a 5-7 min piece. People outside Oz can live stream (watch it) via the ABC Australia website. But no doubt the video will go up after it has aired. But it will be aired on their Nation wide TV primetime. Its all over social media. Owner of Maori Law is 1 person of a few that has posted about it. Now its been reported Tasmania Racing are quickly drafting up an animal welfare standard code. And the film crew turned up to film recently at a Tasman race meeting, but were kicked out. Edited March 22, 2023 by karrotsishere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I note also that thoroughbreds in NZ have been active in this area, with a 1% levy on all stakes https://loveracing.nz/OnHorseFiles/Welfare/The1Percent_April-issue.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Hesi said: I note also that thoroughbreds in NZ have been active in this area, with a 1% levy on all stakes https://loveracing.nz/OnHorseFiles/Welfare/The1Percent_April-issue.pdf Oh wow took a peak at it & looks excellent. Well done NZ Harness & Gallops Leadership leading the way on Animal Welfare. Australia Harness is about to get a clobbering. How they (Tasmania Racing leadership) left it til it gets to something like this. Iv seen pix of allegedly Coles property & they look dreadful. No grass & many many horses in the same paddock (no grass paddock), ribs showing. And a pic of a horse hanging from a tree upside down (this later may not be at his actual property). Its all rather disturbing. Profit love him or hate him, he has been preaching on past 2 years about Cole. Looks like hes on the money. Oh I see Expert Forbs has joined here. Welcome Forbs. What are your thoughts on this? This is all unfolding in your abode Oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josias Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, karrotsishere said: Iv seen pix of allegedly Coles property & they look dreadful. Profit love him or hate him, he has been preaching on past 2 years about Cole. Karrots,I presume Coles is a "typo". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Josias said: Karrots,I presume Coles is a "typo". Oh yip typo thx for that Yole not Cole. Might add which you Josias have prob already also seen. Theres a newspaper article confirming the bizarre scenes that were at play when film crew were blocked from filming this up coming TV piece. And horses were taken to a back gate to enter racetrack oppose going to parade ring & then out onto track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josias Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, karrotsishere said: Oh yip typo thx for that Yole not ColeMight add which you Josias have prob already also seen. Theres a newspaper article confirming the bizarre scenes that were at play when film crew were blocked from filming this up coming TV piece. And horses were taken to a back gate to enter racetrack oppose going to parade ring & then out onto track. Yes Karrots,I did happen to read the article regarding the debacle at Launceston with the film crew. Said The ABC Four Corners Item would go to air next Monday Night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) On 3/23/2023 at 9:19 PM, Josias said: Yes Karrots,I did happen to read the article regarding the debacle at Launceston with the film crew. Said The ABC Four Corners Item would go to air next Monday Night. Maybe have my dates wrong, but checked in now to see if it was advertised. Found these 2 articles instead. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-26/ben-yole-harness-racing-dominance-in-tasmania/102122922 - Looks like this aired last nite. Terrible. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-27/calls-for-urgent-investigation-into-ben-yole-stable-allegations/102148132 - The swift response. Tas Premier has called an independent investigation after ABC report allegations of xyz. Edited March 27, 2023 by karrotsishere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 Absolutely disgusting conditions at Ben Yole's property. Sickening scenes there. I hope the authorities arrive at the best possible outcome for all concerned. Looks like "Peter Profit" was on to something in this case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Rusty said: Absolutely disgusting conditions at Ben Yole's property. Sickening scenes there. I hope the authorities arrive at the best possible outcome for all concerned. Looks like "Peter Profit" was on to something in this case. Yes. How some people can defend, let alone pubically defend this sort of thing. I mean the neighbour said she literally saw horses walking around eating their own poop because there was nothing else to eat in the multimedia article. Found a video on it, but its just 5 min segment. It didnt cover everything in the mulit-media article which covers a variety of topics of concern. If there is more to come as Profit is suggesting it wont be good, as that 4 corners show is 40 min long & on 1 subject only. Which would take a lot of footage/filming, interviews, investigation to cover that timeframe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) Here you go Lightening, you are not the only one who has written into Tasman Harness Racing about concerns to management, stewards & racing Integrity unit. This is heartbreaking! Its a 10 min radio interview with a Tasman trainer G Kelly link below hit play. The end last 2 mins of the interview is upsetting. He is very upset, emotional & very concerned about speaking out. Its heartbreaking & horrible that he & others feel this way. What sort of democracy is it. Hopefully others rally around & support, stand up to this. Good on him for speaking out! Says he wont be turning up this weekend to races & doesnt know when he will be back due to speaking out & is worried he will have his licence taken away. Many txt & calls the radio DJ (interviewer) received during the interview saying this happened to them xyz but speaking on condition of annoymously. They too scared to speak in public. https://www.abc.net.au/hobart/programs/mornings/harness-trainer-calls-for-closure-of-office-of-racing-integrity/102153136 Edited March 28, 2023 by karrotsishere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Here is this latest news TV report looks like it aired possibly yesterday if not day prior, the racing minister says there will be a review into animal welfare & FOR SURE animal welfare changes will be made. The reporter states amid mounting pressure - oh my on another note I see ex Kiwis - Check In, Smooth Deal, Aha Reaction & others are now trained by B Yole. This is of concern. Poor horses! Seems Josia if more on animal welfare is covered by TV ABC 4 Corners, it will be advertised on their twitter page either today or tomorrow for next weeks episode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Blue Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Just last week at Hobart 4 of the 8 races were All Trainer 'Ben Yole' Runner fields. this is only going to lead to problems. Of course the trainer has every right to give 'driving instructions ' to the young team of drivers he engages every week . BUT when he is giving instructions to every driver in the race )more frequently now than ever) this has to be fixing the result. It's just stupidity it has been allowed to happen. He has manipulated the system for his needs (Yole) and of course is grabbing any horse at it's limit in other states (with the help of Aaron Bain bloodstock getting him some cheapies. (and Nz) to LOAD the Fields to further manipulate results. The horses all stand out in uncovered land day to day, night to freezing Tassie night (wouldn't even call it a paddock) so welfare issues could be a problem. The RSPCA has investigated a few times and are satisfied the horses are fed and rugged and attended to. the tragic issue is when they are finished racing because they literally can't run another fast yard , Ben has greyhound trainer mates who 'Look after' the horses for him. Yole also had a world record recently >>>. 10 horses banned from racing at one Meeting for being uncompetitive . a figure that shows the astute trainer this bloke is. What a way to end Tassie harness racing. 😪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) Yes it is all sad. But it may save it tho Lightning. Good news Tasman trainer G Kelly, who was very upset other day radio interview. Was invited to parliament & interviewed again. Here is the latest TV news which covered what was spoken about at State Parliament, which included Death Threats (a Tasman Harness participate female had to be walked off by security). Sounded like she was a whistle blower. More race fixing allegations & the starter at Tasman racing is a truck driver for Yole & more about animal welfare. The integrity unit is under fire now. And calls for them to go. (Mr G Kelly said he already had a run in with State Tasman Integrity unit as he refused to use the whip. He said they nearly broke him. Man they sound like a piece of work. Edited March 29, 2023 by karrotsishere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) Oh my I wondered how the whistle blowers name was leaked. Wow. Shocking allegation. https://www.standard.net.au/story/8140009/horses-being-dragged-to-their-deaths-racing-affair-deepens/ Edited March 29, 2023 by karrotsishere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 3 hours ago, karrotsishere said: Yes it is all sad And all too familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) Heres an interesting watch for those who are following; Lightenig, Josias. Questions were put to Racing Minister. The person who will Head Independent investigation is named. A picture is shown horse hanging from a tree upside down. Alleged person is named that made bet on a race. Issues from last year were raised. Tas parliament sitting yesterday. Watch from 6 mins 45 secs until 23 mins. Then fast forward. Watch from 51 mins to 57 mins. https://www.parliament.tas.gov.au/TBS/HArchive/29032023.html Edited March 30, 2023 by karrotsishere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) As Tassie saga continues, Mr A Bullock Greyhound trainer has admitted he placed bet on horse in race in question. He owns the horse & has a close relationship with B Yole. He said that pic of horse hanging up from tree was taken at his property, but in 2013 & he no longer kills horses for dog meat on his property. He denies that he had any knowledge of anything regarding the race. Of interest A Bullock who is or was Tassies leading dog trainer, doesnt hold a kennel licence & has been operating for a decade without one. Mr Bullock is currently in the process of applying for a kennel licence, after it was revealed he had been operating without one for a decade. A kennel licence is required under Tasmanian law for any person who owns three or more dogs. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-29/greyhound-trainer-anthony-bullock-placed-bet-at-centre-of-probe/102158542 Edited March 30, 2023 by karrotsishere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 5 hours ago, karrotsishere said: A picture is shown horse hanging from a tree upside down. It is incredible to see those in power eg the racing minister parrot how things are good despite the obvious evidence to the contrary. I think that is the worst part of these times, the lack of reason, objectivity, and responsibility by those in power. They just talk total garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 It is just like NZ where a few bad apples are destroying it for the rest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 20 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: It is incredible to see those in power eg the racing minister parrot how things are good despite the obvious evidence to the contrary. I think that is the worst part of these times, the lack of reason, objectivity, and responsibility by those in power. They just talk total garbage. That Racing Minister. How hopeless she is. Listening to her bubble on. She needs to go. Wouldnt answer question & kept repeating herself over & over. Whom initially announced an enquiry but for Racing Integrity to do it (who are part of the problem). It was only when the States Premier stepped in & said no, needs to be independant. Nothing will happen re Tassie UNLESS ABC TV & opposition keep hammering them to force change. Reason - this lead for Tas govt independant investigation was called in for something similar a couple years ago & turned up empty handed. (In saying that it is hard to prove). The lead appointed on commitee who is investigating the Racing Integrity (has conflicts of interest), will NOT take PUBLIC submissions. Instead taking them from the hopeless (nothing to see here & who is accused of handing over whistle blowers x2 times) Racing Minister, the Racing Integrity Head themselves & so on. What a joke. On top of that Racing Director for Tassie has announced some rule to all Aussie Harness Participates, No talking badly about us on social media & so on. No wonder that trainer was afraid to speak. Overall leadership is a problem. But they dont stand down. Unless they are forced down. Same as NZ. Any news on whats happening? Heard people are unhappy with Board, CEO, Handicapper & Chairman. (Thats alot lol). Heard the Norths forums number 1 priority to fix was leadership. Not going to end well when they have to present these findings to none other than the above. Same thing wont go anywhere. Sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, karrotsishere said: That Racing Minister. How hopeless she is. Listening to her bubble on. She needs to go. Competent in her own mind. Was smiling at the end when listening to others which just shows the arrogance. 10 minutes ago, karrotsishere said: Overall leadership is a problem. But they dont stand down. Unless they are forced down. No one gives up a gravy train on a big salary with no accountability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Competent in her own mind. Was smiling at the end when listening to others which just shows the arrogance. No one gives up a gravy train on a big salary with no accountability. aint that the truth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Competent in her own mind. Was smiling at the end when listening to others which just shows the arrogance. No one gives up a gravy train on a big salary with no accountability. Tassie Racing Minister what a joke she is. That leader of opposition seemed onto it. Quite attractive too. Maybe needs to be next leader of Aussie hehe. Ha seriously anyone heard anything else re NZ Leadership? Heard that high profile owner Monkey Kings owner has written a letter to clubs re not happy with leaders & board & is pushing for change. Now is the time people to get in behind him, if you too want change. Also heard Those North Island Forums over whelming voted for a vote of no confidence in HRNZ leadership. And want change. Whats happening with that? Any word? Edited March 31, 2023 by karrotsishere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) The latest update r B Yole & Tassie racing. Is a new rule has been made, this is to promote intergrity & fairness & participation. No trainer is allowed to have more than 50% of runners. So if there are 11 starters the max any 1 trainer can have or have in their care is 5. Not sure when this rule comes into play. Edited April 12, 2023 by karrotsishere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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