Happy Sunrise Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Cambridge Raceway has had enough. Good on them. They may say it is to be a constructive meeting etc which is good but it still means they will be standing up to HRNZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 About time. I hope HRNZ take careful notice of the solutions and new ideas and act on them before the whole thing implodes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allovertheform Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 The best thing they could do as a collective is table a vote of no confidence against the current management and board of harness racing new Zealand. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addington Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Am i correct in thinking the current HRNZ chair somes from Cambridge or nearby ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 10 hours ago, Allovertheform said: The best thing they could do as a collective is table a vote of no confidence against the current management and board of harness racing new Zealand. While it is a well mannered and positive move it is still a shot across the bow of HRNZ but a move, like you suggest, would be a last resort. Good to see Cambridge force the issue and try and get support. Who else is brave enough to do the same? Southern Harness? I doubt Addington would. Awaiting the article in the Herald by Guerin about it. Oh to be a fly on the wall listening to all the internal politicking going on because of the Cambridge meeting. Guerin, being a mouthpiece for the industry, combined with the lack of transparency of HRNZ, could be the one to publicly deliver the official response. One has to wonder what is the point of the annual conference HRNZ holds and what goes on it as it was held only a couple of months ago. It must be ineffective or concerns fall on deaf ears to be at the point where Cambridge is taking HRNZ to task at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Cambridge takes the initiative with forums to explore solutions to North Island harness woes By Barry Lichter • 7 January 2023 The Cambridge Raceway board is taking the initiative and organising forums to hopefully find solutions to the myriad of issues facing harness racing in the North Island. Chairman Graham Bowen and CEO David Branch today sent an open letter to all participants, urging them to attend forums to be held in Palmerston North and Pukekohe in early February. The move comes after another week of turmoil in the industry when Cambridge lost its two feature races on tonight’s programme, Harness Racing New Zealand ruling there were too few nominations. In its letter, the Cambridge board says in recent months it has been concerned about a number of factors affecting harness racing in general and the North Island in particular. “Among the major issues are race programming, stakes funding distribution, the racing calendar (dates and number of meetings), the declining number of horses racing in the north and subsequent falling turnover. “We also feel that there has never been more of a divide within the industry which seems to turn on itself and default to criticism without solutions. “This is a time when we as an industry need to be united and working together to find solutions for the future.” Bowen and Branch say the forums will have a clear objective of looking for solutions and new ideas that can be presented to HRNZ for action. “Our intention is to have an experienced independent facilitator to run these meetings. This will not be an opportunity for blame or criticism of past actions, current processes or HRNZ and attendees will be expected to stay strictly within the bounds of the objectives of the meetings. “We encourage everyone interested to attend and contribute in a positive and respectful manner in what we believe will be a critical step forward for harness racing in the North Island.” Details of the forums will be released in the next two weeks but it is hoped they can be scheduled before the yearling sales. More questions Meanwhile, more questions are being asked today about just how HRNZ rules on what constitutes a minimum number of starters. When Branch tackled HRNZ handicapper Andrew Morris earlier in the week about a precedent having been set after Auckland was given the OK to run the Lincoln Farms’ Franklin Cup on New Year’s Eve with only four starters, he was told the Group status of the race saved it. $1.20 favourite South Coast Arden beats Kango a nose in the four-horse 2022 Cambridge Classic.But the $17,200 Cambridge Classic was not a Group or Listed race when it was run last January 27 with only four starters. That race, which had one scratching, was taken out by the $1.20 favourite South Coast Arden, co-owned by HRNZ CEO Gary Woodham. Branch recalled arguing hard to retain that race because it was a lead-in to the Sprint Classic at Auckland on the fledgling Harness Millions night two weeks later. The Sprint Classic carried Listed, not Group status, and was run for $43,000 with just five starters, and won by the $1.10 favourite Self Assured. The Charlie Hunter Free-for-all, which was canned tonight because it had only five runners, was a crucial lead-in to the Group III $30,000 Trotters’ Flying Stakes at Cambridge on January 12. HRNZ might be on a fresh cost-cutting footing after having to take $2.1 million out of its reserves to offset the TAB’s $15 million payout cut to the industry, but if that was the case how could Cambridge’s offer to drop its two features to only $15,000 be rejected so summarily by the handicapper? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addington Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, Hesi said: This will not be an opportunity for blame or criticism of past actions, current processes or HRNZ and attendees will be expected to stay strictly within the bounds of the objectives of the meetings. This means status quo for HRNZ employees. Based on the above it will achieve nothing because those who hold power are unlikely to be ever held accountable just like the previous clowns who ran the game into the ground up north. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Hesi said: This will not be an opportunity for blame or criticism of past actions, current processes or HRNZ and attendees will be expected to stay strictly within the bounds of the objectives of the meetings. But it has to be critical of past actions and current processes, that is why the meetings are being held in the first place. 1 hour ago, Addington said: This means status quo for HRNZ employees. Based on the above it will achieve nothing because those who hold power are unlikely to be ever held accountable just like the previous clowns who ran the game into the ground up north. Tiptoeing through the tulips won't solve anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addington Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Happy Sunrise said: But it has to be critical of past actions and current processes, that is why the meetings are being held in the first place. Tiptoeing through the tulips won't solve anything. You and i see it exactly the same way and thus nothing will come out of it bar a suggestions for change which will be ignored. Watching while Rome's burning comes to mind immediately Edited January 8, 2023 by Addington 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Addington said: a suggestions for change which will be ignored. Which brings us back to putting up a "vote of no confidence" in the current board and management. This will drag on forever otherwise ,while HRNZ drag their feet and as Addington states "Rome Burns". 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Whats this? Good on Cambridge. Well done. Iv pretty much always stated D Branch is onto it. B Lincher (Lincoln Farms) is also onto it. B Reid is also onto it. Another to add to list is J Smith from HRNZ journo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) Wasnt sure where to post this. But just noticed that the trotters FFA will be on this week. And MM is still up & his stablemate. Good! Many appreciation to the below who has nomed - and helps keep the race a GO. Think those connections Globe @Enteebee need to be welcomed. Dont go sprinting hard & fast the entire race with MM & his stable mate Acknowledge this. R48! Be thankful that he helped get this race off the ground. The last lap of course then do your thing. But Id be incredibly disappointed if I watch back a video & see the field running at full pace the entire race that Romeo Foxtrot cannot keep up! It is what it is folks. This is the NEW, now & reality of Harness racing in NZ. It is what it is. Again repeat be thankful this trainer & horse has stepped up to make sure this race goes ahead. So do not crucify this horse in the running. BIG mistake if that happens. Nominations for Race 3: CAMBRIDGE TROTTERS FLYING STAKES Horse Form Age Sex Trainer Rating $Hcp Life $Win Hcp Romeo Foxtrot 325563 6 G A Bublitz R48 37,940 19,375 Ft Edited January 9, 2023 by karrotsishere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 10:22 AM, Happy Sunrise said: Awaiting the article in the Herald by Guerin about it. I don't think he'll touch it. He should, and I hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling he will choose not to publish anything about it in the Herald. He'll be torn. So he won't publish anything. It's like when your mum wants you to go have Christmas lunch at her place, but your wife wants to go to her mum's joint for the Christmas lunch. Meanwhile Greg O'Connor on The Box Seat will just get splinters from sitting on the fence lol but that is kind of understandable in some ways I guess. Love your work Greg. Honestly, I do. Good on the Cambridge club for being proactive. Can only hope that other clubs jump onboard too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) I hear M James is playing at The Race. WELL DONE Cambridge. Edited August 18, 2023 by karrotsishere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, karrotsishere said: I hear M James is playing at The Race. WELL DONE Cambridge. PS this is very exciting news!! Cambridge are going to be the saviours for Harness racing in the North. Dont let ATC people near the club when it goes under. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addington Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, karrotsishere said: Cambridge are going to be the saviours for Harness racing in the North. Too little too late perhaps. ATC a basket case and HRNZ has programming issues that top other club issues up that way. Back at HQ tonight. Nice food and bevvies and might unload on a few as Nelson Marlborough circuit not my scene. Edited January 27, 2023 by Addington 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Addington said: Too little too late perhaps. ATC a basket case and HRNZ has programming issues that top other club issues up that way. Back at HQ tonight. Nice food and bevvies and might unload on a few as Nelson Marlborough circuit not my scene. Could be. At least its a last ditch effort. Im super excited. Amped in hearing re M James. Be a big crowd. Addington also seem to be on to it. Sorry for changing subject on your Addington thread. Hey maybe Ill start a Dream Team thread. On who is Race place dream team staff to take over. Could end up being Addington & Cambridge left in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) On 1/27/2023 at 3:16 PM, karrotsishere said: Could be. At least its a last ditch effort. Im super excited. Amped in hearing re M James. Be a big crowd. Found out more info & M James will be playing at the After Party for The Race. So clearly targeting the younger people. All the grandmas & grandpas will be all tucked up in bed. Some info re M James, an NZ singer/song writer, who won MTV Eupore Music Awards for Best NZ Act, was nom-ed Vodafone NZ Music Best Single of Year & also another year NZ Best Artist of Year etc. He opened for E Sheeran when E Sheeran played NZ. My fav songs he sings are 21 & Sunday Mornings & Bright Blue Skies. He also launched a mental health campaign after the death of a close mate of his to suicide. Edited January 29, 2023 by karrotsishere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Here No Fixed Abode ha, an oldie but a goodie of his. Always thought he could be NZs next big international music star. Really rate his voice. Very good live. Just needs to change his get-up, & get new better LA style music videos & take his hook in chorus up a notch & he will be on a big winner. Congrats again Cambridge Raceway for scoring him for your big gig. Edited January 29, 2023 by karrotsishere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Check this latest out Race Place Folk, eff he is good. This was him 2 months ago & him live, what a voice M James. He needs to change his get up as mentioned (his pants here). His voice is soooo good. Listen to the whole thing. (Japan - latest single) Edited January 29, 2023 by karrotsishere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Im hearing thru the grapewine Feb Alex P meetings will be at Cambridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/30/2023 at 8:47 PM, karrotsishere said: Im hearing thru the grapewine Feb Alex P meetings will be at Cambridge. Wow $100k worth as per article. For track to be mended. My understanding is that the ground floors of buildings aside from track also got water in. Poor Aucklanders. Sad to see. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/weather-auckland-floods-eden-park-outer-oval-flooded-alexandra-park-track-needs-replacing/F5576P4BOBGG5C7E5MXCVBZ3DA/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Check this neat promo out for The Race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karrotsishere Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Also pretty neat M Purdon helps out with promo for it. So far the horses confirmed entered in bold are Old Town Road, Bettor Eclispe, (owners have put it out there they WANT to start & are bring back Copy That for it), Rock N Roll Do, (Self Assured) would have to be in as a defending champ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, karrotsishere said: Check this neat promo out for The Race. Well done to the club, that's a credit to all involved putting that together, good on them, it's encouraging to see. I wish them every success. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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