Hesi Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Never seen so much fake news/bs published in the last week about their chances. The simple fact of the matter, they are not good enough, 3 teams are vastly superior, should be a one sided affair tonight, as long as the rain does not intervene. Actually that would be their only slim chance. India bat first, match over reduced, NZ chasing a T20 type scenario, 190 off 20 overs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 One of the few times I agree with you. No chance... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 The only similarity between cricket and the sport all you poofters follow, is that each team has 11 players, other than that cricket is superior in every way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hesi said: The only similarity between cricket and the sport all you poofters follow, is that each team has 11 players, other than that cricket is superior in every way Yeah thanks for that 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 18000 secondary students playing cricket in 2000 10000 playing in 2016. Cricket is going down the gurgler. Parents not interested in spending hours and hours on a Saturday watching cricket.If the parents don't buy into the games,its gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 Rugby, racing and beer, all on the decline big time.......and cricket I wonder what the new slogan will be for NZ in a few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 I see also, that India apparently dodged a bullet last night, chasing 148 in 20 overs may have been too much for them. Did the author of the news item, not realise, that India have such batting firepower, they are capable of scoring at 7 runs per over for the full 50 overs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 NZ have played poorly the entire tournament. One game against SL which was such a short chase, it put no pressure on NZ. Very lucky to make SF. Many players in team not up to required level. Might have limited player/parental issue here. But still one of the biggest sports from a betting perspective. Games in World Cup on Betfair doing $150m each+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, mardigras said: NZ have played poorly the entire tournament. One game against SL which was such a short chase, it put no pressure on NZ. Very lucky to make SF. Many players in team not up to required level. Might have limited player/parental issue here. But still one of the biggest sports from a betting perspective. Games in World Cup on Betfair doing $150m each+. So if you added in all the other betting agencies around the world, it is potentially close to a billion on each match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, Hesi said: So if you added in all the other betting agencies around the world, it is potentially close to a billion on each match? More if you count the underground ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 16 out of the last 20 World Cup matches have been won by the team batting first The last 4 overs expecting to see the cricket ball hit into the Southern Hemisphere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, VC! said: 16 out of the last 20 World Cup matches have been won by the team batting first The last 4 overs expecting to see the cricket ball hit into the Southern Hemisphere Might be a little late. In my view, the wickets have been quite poor overall from an entertainment perspective. Pre tournament, there was ample talk of heaps of games being 350 - 400+. Very few have got close to that. Many scores under or around 240. Wickets have been variable and often slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Given the NZ openers display during the World Cup,NZ are always 2 down before the game starts. Guptills favourite song''Living on a prayer''. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, mardigras said: Might be a little late. In my view, the wickets have been quite poor overall from an entertainment perspective. Pre tournament, there was ample talk of heaps of games being 350 - 400+. Very few have got close to that. Many scores under or around 240. Wickets have been variable and often slow. Some of the wickets start off fine, but then seem to slow down around the 30 over mark. Tennis ball bounce seems to be the term used to describe it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Hesi said: Some of the wickets start off fine, but then seem to slow down around the 30 over mark. Tennis ball bounce seems to be the term used to describe it I didn't see many change. NZ games - both sides couldn't bat effectively except perhaps the game at The Oval. Even the current game has the situation where some think NZ is still a chance due to the nature of the pitch. It has made the odd game interesting as sides have struggled to chase down small scores until the final over or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 The reality is, NZ might squeeze out 250 India will hunt that down with 5-10 overs to spare, with Rahul and Sharma scoring tons, Kohli and Dhoni to finish it off. Much the same as the Sri Lanka match And Shikhar Dhawan, probably the classiest Indian batsman, watching on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 You're probably right. Slow pitches will suit the Indians anyway and they are a class above NZ overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 NZ probably value right now at around the $5-30 mark they will probably lose the match but will come out all guns a blazing the last 4 overs take an early wicket and come into around $3-75 at which point you trade out Australia right now Value at $2-26 you will be able to back both teams within the first 10 overs for a profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, VC! said: NZ probably value right now at around the $5-30 mark they will probably lose the match but will come out all guns a blazing the last 4 overs take an early wicket and come into around $3-75 at which point you trade out Australia right now Value at $2-26 you will be able to back both teams within the first 10 overs for a profit Well above my unsophisticated level of betting Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 And, that is the thing I despise about social media, people are using it to have a go at Guptill, free speech I think they call it Sure, he is out of form, confidence which is a big factor in cricket is shot, but leave out the personal stuff. Cricket is a game of fine tolerances, these elite cricketers are very talented, they very quickly work out a batsmen's weaknesses and exploit it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 You’ll get there Alan, you don’t need tools like Betfair Angel or Betfair Pro you can do it yourself I’m as sceptical as they come why would someone sell a system if you can make a fortune yourself,in the long run the very select few will be trading against one another. You said NZ should reach 250 that’s a fair call 10 runs an over from here on in They will then be handed the new ball often an early wicket occurs once this happens the price that was once $5-30 about the black caps has well and truly gone you’ve backed them at $5-30 to win you now lay them immediately at $3-75 to lose business is done you switch over to State of Origin for whom you have backed NSW to win the series after Qld had initially won the first origin match put ya feet up and crack open a tinny or if you’ve fallen from the more sophisticated side of the tree ya sipping on the finest of fine red wines 82 million matched on BF so far This is why we need a Universal TAB with a takeout rate of about 6% across all markets it would put an end to everyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Agree re BetAngel etc. They are just tools. They don't make you win. They are promoted as if they can help you win, but if you can't understand or work out the scenarios that allow you to win, the tools aren't going to help. They may help you just lose faster as you think you can enter into more markets more often. I use a tool, but I don't trade. The tool is one I wrote myself, but it wouldn't be any good if I didn't know how/what to bet on to profit. The tool just allows me to do things through an interface that is easier to use than browser pages or company supplied apps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Unfortunately I’m not capable of writing sophisticated algorithms so I identify factors that are most important to myself The most important factor speed maps/race shape are my horses suited or not I know the expectations limitations of their ability what time are they likely to run there first 600 last 600 the final arbiter to Bet or not to Bet In the long run it’s all about profit it doesn’t matter how you get there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC! Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 The Black Caps CAN!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, VC! said: The Black Caps CAN!!!!!! Yes. again the wicket clearly helped. Another one very difficult to lift run rate when required. One batter could, even Dhoni couldn't. Went to 6 of the NZ games in the round robin. Sadly missed that as was a cracker. Back in NZ now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.