Turny Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Ashhurst and Woodville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Max is always in need of points - 100 would be fab ...so it's Babyface Thomson and ...hmmm...older guy, looks a tad on the middle-aged, weather-beaten side unless the photo is an optical illusion ....hmmmm... trackwork jockeys you said ...mebbe that's a clue that one of em wasnt a jockey at the time but still rode trackwork...hmmm... Jock Harris? Eric Ropiha HN Rauhihi? hmm.. or wuz PJ's comment 'not GF' a Freudian slip and it's GF Hughes? MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted July 6, 2023 Author Share Posted July 6, 2023 I think that was a phonetic slip Max. No to all those answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted July 6, 2023 Author Share Posted July 6, 2023 Okay here's another clue. They first raced against each other in a Caulfield Cup. They had 148 starts between them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Is Mr Brooker one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 148 starts ... that's Family of Man country but those horses look too dark for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Is it Greenwattle Racecourse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Could it be Levin racetrack ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted July 7, 2023 Author Share Posted July 7, 2023 No to all those answers. Today's clue: The horse on the left broke his maiden at Goulburn Valley RC in Victoria The horse on the right won 9 of his first 15 races including 3 at hastings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 The horse on the left - is that his actual white markings or is it tape as they are quite unusual ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Is the horse on the right So Called? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted July 7, 2023 Author Share Posted July 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Dancing Show said: The horse on the left - is that his actual white markings or is it tape as they are quite unusual ... Not sure - the hind looks taped Not So Called Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Was Van Der Hum 0ne of them and Gold and Black the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted July 7, 2023 Author Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, ngakonui grass said: Was Van Der Hum 0ne of them and Gold and Black the other NG well done on Van der Hum. Not Gold and Black the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 On 7/5/2023 at 8:21 PM, PWJ said: Teddy is correct. Every thoroughbred today has Teddy in his pedigree. I didn t realise the Arabians had Teddys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted July 7, 2023 Author Share Posted July 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Globederby19 said: I didn t realise the Arabians had Teddys. Not Arabians, just thoroughbreds https://www.tbheritage.com/Portraits/Teddy.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 7 hours ago, PWJ said: Not Arabians, just thoroughbreds https://www.tbheritage.com/Portraits/Teddy.html What I meant (tongue in cheek)was that every TB today stems from the Byerley Turk, and the two Arabians who might have had a Teddy. Poor attempt at humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 9 hours ago, PWJ said: NG well done on Van der Hum. Not Gold and Black the other Battle Heights ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Ross Douglas the other rider ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted July 7, 2023 Author Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Globederby19 said: What I meant (tongue in cheek)was that every TB today stems from the Byerley Turk, and the two Arabians who might have had a Teddy. Poor attempt at humour. I realized later where your tongue was - haha Fun fact: There is somewhat of a misnomer surrounding the origins of the thoroughbred. The 3 you mention - the Darley Arabian, Godolphin Arabian & Byerley Turk - are commonly cited as the originators of the breed but nothing could be further from the truth. The error in interpretation is that by the early 20th Century the only sirelines remaining alive descended from this trio. There were dozens of Arabian and Turk stallions that are embed in the origin of the breed and can be found in the pedigree of every horse today. I give you the pedigree of one of the first great TBs in Gimcrack. Note the multiple other Turk & Arab stallions in his (known) pedigree. Please avert your eyes from the pedigree of Jigg's dam who is the product of Spanker covering his own mother ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted July 7, 2023 Author Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, ngakonui grass said: Battle Heights ? No NG, but you are getting considerably warmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Happy union with Ronnie Swift in the saddle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted July 7, 2023 Author Share Posted July 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, ngakonui grass said: Happy union with Ronnie Swift in the saddle Nope. The other rider was a Champion jock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zabeel Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 How Now Brent Thomson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 On 7/6/2023 at 2:16 PM, PWJ said: Today's clue - the horses were trained at locations just 12 kms apart If Van der hum was trained at Matangi would i be correct in thinking that the other one was at Cambridge ? If so i'm thinking ROYAL CADENZA with Roger Lang up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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