PWJ Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Probably a tad easy for some. Name the horses, the race, the jockeys ? Clue - their sires stood at properties a few hundred yards from each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 I'm staggered no one has even had a crack at this ! I'll give you a huge clue. The sires of both horses stood on Tower Road, Matamata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 The only studs I can recall on Tower Rd, are Waikato Stud(still there), and Balcarres Stud, which no longer exists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 There have been a couple of others in the past. The era I'm referring to is the 1970s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Tower Road... 1970's... Wedgewood Stud and Chandon Stud were located near Waikato Stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) All Glory was a grey and he stood at Wedgewood - might be a bit late though if we are focussing purely on 70's ... Edited October 19, 2021 by Dancing Show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Here's a few memories for you PJ Meanwhile, at Heatherlea Park near Levin, trainer Craig Ivil was telling Peter Jenkins, who managed several syndicated horses in his stable, that he wanted to buy a stallion.Peter recalls "I told him he was nuts, that he was better to stick to training but he persisted and Heatherlea Park was a nice property with lots of boxes and good acreage." Peter helped Craig to sort out two stallions from several he was offered: Victory Dance and Mi Preferido (who eventually went to Wedgewood Stud).Peter says "I preferred Victory Dance because if your budget is limited you're better to go for pedigree rather than performance. New Zealand has such a good record of success with well-bred but humbly-performed stallions like Battle-Waggon, Mellay, Noble Bijou and Sir Tristram.""I really, really liked Sadler's Wells, had studied him a lot and thought he'd make it at stud. Craig inspected Mi Preferido and Victory Dance in California and liked Victory Dance better on type. We loved him as soon as we saw him, he's a classy animal with size and strength which probably comes from his damsire Sassafras who was always under-rated as a racehorse and as a stallion."A few weeks after Craig Ivil purchased Victory Dance, his half-brother champion US turf horse Theatrical came up with the first of his fifty-plus stakeswinners.Peter then set about trying to find suitable mares for the horse. A dedicated student of pedigrees and early member of the Levin Breeders Forum, he was especially keen on mares with deep lines of the Bend Or/Macaroni cross. Victory Dance's first book of 74 mares produced Australian Group 3 winner Mr Victory, Group One-placed Anemos and stakes-placed Vanity Flight.Peter comments "It has surprised me that he gets 1200-metre horses but Theatrical was similar: a middle-distance performer who could get sprinters."After two seasons at Heatherlea Park, Victory Dance was transferred to the Holmes family's Grande Vue Lodge, Matamata where he stood from 1993 to 1997 at a fee of $3,000. Allan Holmes says "We worked hard to get mares for him and he got reasonable patronage. He was a lovely horse to work with, we never had a problem with him and he left us lovely, correct horses with size and style that just needed a bit of time to mature.""We have several nice fillies by him for our broodmare band and we're proud to have them. He leaves the type of horse New Zealand can be proud of and we wish Rich Hill all the best with him this year."In 1998 Victory Dance returned to the Central Districts, standing two seasons at Sovereign Lodge for Mike Ford and Roger Sugrue. Mike's untimely death in May 1999 left Roger to manage him for the following stud season. Andrew and Melanie Davies took over for the 2000 season before Victory Dance's current ownership was finalised.With eight crops of racing age and eight stakeswinners, including recently retired dual Group One winner Cinder Bella, among his 94 winners from 164 starters, he is finally receiving recognition for his hard-earned success. As Peter Jenkins says, "You'll be hard-pressed to find anyone with a bad word to say about Victory Dance." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Would they be Grey Way ( Maurice Campbell) and Copper Belt ( Gary Phillips ) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Hesi said: Here's a few memories for you PJ Meanwhile, at Heatherlea Park near Levin, trainer Craig Ivil was telling Peter Jenkins, who managed several syndicated horses in his stable, that he wanted to buy a stallion.Peter recalls "I told him he was nuts, that he was better to stick to training but he persisted and Heatherlea Park was a nice property with lots of boxes and good acreage." Peter helped Craig to sort out two stallions from several he was offered: Victory Dance and Mi Preferido (who eventually went to Wedgewood Stud). Some prehistoric history there buddy...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 33 minutes ago, Gordy said: Would they be Grey Way ( Maurice Campbell) and Copper Belt ( Gary Phillips ) ? No but it was an intelligent guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 I thought the running rail might have given some clues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 Here's another huge clue - the beaten lot that day included two stallions who ended up standing in Cambridge - one at Cambridge Stud and one at Chequers Stud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForValue Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) Taksan & Arwon 1978 Caulfield Cup. John Duggan and Ron Quinton Edited October 19, 2021 by LookingForValue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, PWJ said: Here's another huge clue - the beaten lot that day included two stallions who ended up standing in Cambridge - one at Cambridge Stud and one at Chequers Stud Hmm given that time period then one of the beaten lot could well have been Vice Regal who went on to stand at Chequers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Dancing Show said: Hmm given that time period then one of the beaten lot could well have been Vice Regal who went on to stand at Chequers. Yes, the gorgeous Vice Regal was among the beaten brigade. Good start... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, LookingForValue said: Taksan & Arwon 1978 Caulfield Cup. John Duggan and Ron Quinton Correct LFV. What gave it away ? Taksan by Kazakstaan who stood at Balcarres Stud. He was a grey by Mellay's sire Never Say Die Arwon was by the poorly performed sire Aritzo who stood at Wallace's Gelncairn Stud and was a son of Oncidium's sir Alcide. The other sires in the beaten brigade that day was Marceau (later of Cambridge Stud) and Lefroy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Did Kazakstaan end up standing at Fairdale just out of Palmerston North? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, PWJ said: No but it was an intelligent guess. You are too kind Peter, heck, I didn’t even have the right country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForValue Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, PWJ said: Correct LFV. What gave it away ? Taksan by Kazakstaan who stood at Balcarres Stud. He was a grey by Mellay's sire Never Say Die Arwon was by the poorly performed sire Aritzo who stood at Wallace's Gelncairn Stud and was a son of Oncidium's sir Alcide. The other sires in the beaten brigade that day was Marceau (later of Cambridge Stud) and Lefroy. My background knowledge seems to have improved since my second 5G Astra Zeneca jab. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Show Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Gordy said: You are too kind Peter, heck, I didn’t even have the right country. Dinna matter Gordy!! 🙂 Can't have a trivia quiz without folk taking part and it got us cracking! 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWJ Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 3:50 PM, von Smallhaussen said: Did Kazakstaan end up standing at Fairdale just out of Palmerston North? Don't think so VS. he was exported to Oz in 1980. You could be thinking of Khairpour, the grey stallion that Gary Chittick stood at Longburn, just around the corner from fairdale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, PWJ said: Don't think so VS. he was exported to Oz in 1980. You could be thinking of Khairpour, the grey stallion that Gary Chittick stood at Longburn, just around the corner from fairdale. Correct you are -thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Blue Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Here's a MONDAY Trivia for you keen kiwi racers. My favourite Jockey aboard landing me a big memorable quinella win. Only paddled around with TB's for a few months once, and this bloke riding won for me at Caloundra. Theres a good 'kiwi' connection going on in this great moment. Who are we seeing here with the 2 horses and jocks ?? ( PJ ,you are barred as too easy for you lol ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Jezabeel ridden by Chris Munce. Champagne ridden by Glen Boss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Blue Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Double R said: Jezabeel ridden by Chris Munce. Champagne ridden by Glen Boss. 🍾🍾 well done Robert. pop the champers !!!! The Boss man (another fine Queenslander ) getting primed for his big day(s) out with the Diva in years following this exciting finish. The Munster taking MC glory !!!! What's the ' kiwi 'connection then ?? ( you are barred now Robert and PJ allowed back in lol..... ) 🍾 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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