pete Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 You'd be coming home after that wouldn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Yes As much as I hate to say it, that has well and truly burst Catalyst's bubble, which is a big big shame He couldn't beat Alligator Blood, and also some of those hardened older sprinter/milers on that run Perhaps there is a legitimate reason for the poor run, let's hope so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hesi said: Yes As much as I hate to say it, that has well and truly burst Catalyst's bubble, which is a big big shame He couldn't beat Alligator Blood, and also some of those hardened older sprinter/milers on that run Perhaps there is a legitimate reason for the poor run, let's hope so Being charitable he has been up quite a while and the last run was a gut buster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 The same applies to Alligator Blood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 He appeared to change legs twice, I would say he has a niggle there for sure. Never give up boys after one average run, most punters do that to there detriment, idiots like Thommo and ATA for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 A shame that the 'match race' didn't eventuate,but would it be possible that his run a few weeks back flattened him?.You'd be silly to drop him on that run,as we all know that he's all class.Unfortunately horses do have off days,and today was his sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 6TH CATALYST DAMIAN LANE The race shape turned out terrible for him. When they backed off the tempo, it put him in a sticky spot and he just raced a little greenly when I asked him. I just feel he didn’t lengthen as well (as he could). We’ll see how he pulls up and go from there but he just might need the blinkers back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 It's incredible to see how the Australasian people think. If something doesn't go to plan, try some gear. Gear - used so infrequently in the UK compared to here. He's run faster without blinkers than he ever has with them on. Nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 hours ago, pete said: Being charitable he has been up quite a while and the last run was a gut buster. funny how no-one in the Catalyst camp (or outside) said that before this evening, mate. Unless he has a very very good physiological explanation (eg nobbled, Suzie The Cook works at the stables, bloods were 'off', etc) it was hugely disappointing effort. The one guy prob having a wry smile right now is Troy Harris (5 rides, 5 wins on him) Breathtaking win by AB. All kudos to him and his connections. MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigos1 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 He changed legs at least twice maybe more. Not his day.....but Alligator Blood was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 7 hours ago, mardigras said: It's incredible to see how the Australasian people think. If something doesn't go to plan, try some gear. Gear - used so infrequently in the UK compared to here. He's run faster without blinkers than he ever has with them on. Nuts. Blinkers are amazing. They can fix sore legs, viruses, horses over the top and even make slow ones faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Catalyst (NZ) Hung in under pressure in the straight. Rider Damian Lane reported the race was not run to suit his mount and in his opinion, the gelding would be better suited racing in blinkers. A post-race veterinary examination failed to reveal any obvious abnormality and a sample was taken for analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, curious said: Blinkers are amazing. They can fix sore legs, viruses, horses over the top and even make slow ones faster. I meant to say they also cure breathing problems, lack of fitness, mares in season, unsuitable distances and one eyed punters. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 You forgot to add they give rise to blinkered vision, which is probably where the name came from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) Frankly, I didn't think it was a bad run. He's been beaten at 1600 about 4 lengths by a very good horse. Seemed to get to the line ok after being under pressure in the straight. Was it really a sub-par performance? Or is he maybe not quite as good as some think? Edited February 29, 2020 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I picked up a comment in Punters.com, and i note, that wise sage Barry making a similar comment The money was spot on, with Catalyst missing a place after completely losing his action under pressure in the straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Caller Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) I think what people have forgotten is that the Aussie 3yr olds are a very good crop ,which puts into perspective how good AB is. D Lanes comments that the race wasn't run to suit,tells me that ... (1)AB got an easier run than it looked! (2)Jockeys need to wake up and have a plan b, it's a Grp 1 for christ's sake. (3)AB is exceptionally good and would be lorded as a champ if he was from NSW or Vic. I'm with option 3, as I think you could run that race 10 times and the results would still be the same. As for the race yesterday it's all of the above! Hesi, agree re action of Catalyst ,he was moving into the race nicely when his action went.First bet in Aus this year was e/w on Soul Patch (got my money back)he was great value I thought and is tough, looking forward to him getting over 2000m. Edited February 29, 2020 by Midnight Caller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Racing: Catalyst pressing on to All Star Mile 2 Mar, 2020 5:00am Quick Read All Star Mile hopeful Catalyst with trainer Clayton Chipperfield. Photo / Pat Scala / Racing Photos NZ Herald Kiwi trainer Clayton Chipperfield isn't giving up yet after Catalyst got lost in the A$1 million Australian Guineas on Saturday. The exceptional gelding raced well below his best, lost his stride and his concentration before dropping out to run sixth behind Alligator Blood. "The race pattern didn't suit but we all know he is better than that," said Chipperfield. "He just lost his concentration and was gawking around too much. "So we will see how he is in a few days but press on to the All Star Mile and put the hood back on to make him concentrate." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I have no issue with putting gear on. It is no magic elixir - it should be to address an issue the horse has. I certainly didn't notice the horse losing concentration and gawking around. I did notice him being under pressure. Some horses require some gear to perform at their best. Some don't. Based on his performances to date, I'd say blinkers make no real difference. If he came out and won, they'd be claiming they were the difference. His run wasn't that bad on Saturday. Just not up to it on the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I tend to think that the stropping up he got last time out may have hurt him more than thought. He has been carefully and sympathetically handled to date, and might be a bit on the 'soft' side? Those top Aussie horses are toughness personified...and the Darci Brahma's don't - yet - step up to the best over there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Good luck if he presses on but he is no AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Catalyst still on target for All-Star Mile Sunday, 1 March, 2020 - 15:30 Trainer Clayton Chipperfield is firm in his belief that star three-year-old Catalyst can bounce back to his best in the A$5 million All-Star Mile (1600m) in a fortnight despite suffering a heavy defeat in the Gr.1 Australian Guineas (1600m) at Flemington. The Darci Brahma gelding weakened noticeably in the concluding stages on Saturday after lodging a likely challenge at the 300m mark, with Chipperfield and jockey Damian Lane believing a return to racing in blinkers is now a must for the horse. "The race just wasn’t run to suit with the outsider (Commodus) going around us and slowing up the pace made us hang on a bit too much," Chipperfield said. "When we needed to finish it off in the last bit he started looking around at the horses beside him so the jockey (Lane) came back in and said he needed the hood to go back on. "He will definitely race in the hood next start and most likely for the rest of his life. "I know there have been some comments that said he looked like he was hanging or suchlike but that wasn’t the case as he was just having a gawk around. "I think it was inexperience as he hasn’t had horses around him going past him like that as he is normally the one going past them, so he was wondering what was going on." Chipperfield spent time with the horse on Sunday morning before heading home to New Zealand and was pleased with what he saw. "He was running around his paddock on Sunday morning, happy as Larry without a care in the world so I was pleased about that," he said. "He left about two handfuls of feed last night, so that wasn’t anything out of the ordinary. "He also had the vets give him a good going over after the race and he passed their tests perfectly. "They took some blood off him which we won’t know about for a couple of days, but he is as bright as a button today and we will keep a good eye on him over the next 48 hours." Chipperfield has Catalyst staying at ex-pat kiwi Brett Scott’s Mornington property and will get a report from Scott during the week before flying back to Melbourne on Friday for the lead-up to the All-Star Mile at Caulfield on March 14. "Scotty is going to give him a trot up tomorrow (Monday) and let me know how he feels while Robert (Priscott) is coming over today (Sunday) to be with him until I get back next Friday," Chipperfield said. "If Robert and Scotty are happy, we will push on to the All-Star. "Damian (Lane) will gallop him and we might even take him to Caulfield for a look around during the week. "If we had an issue, we would be on the next plane home as the welfare of the horse is the number one priority. "He’s a better horse than what we saw on Saturday and we want to show people that next time." - NZ Racing Desk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, Hesi said: Catalyst still on target for All-Star Mile Sunday, 1 March, 2020 - 15:30 Trainer Clayton Chipperfield is firm in his belief that star three-year-old Catalyst can bounce back to his best in the A$5 million All-Star Mile (1600m) in a fortnight despite suffering a heavy defeat in the Gr.1 Australian Guineas (1600m) at Flemington. The Darci Brahma gelding weakened noticeably in the concluding stages on Saturday after lodging a likely challenge at the 300m mark, with Chipperfield and jockey Damian Lane believing a return to racing in blinkers is now a must for the horse. "The race just wasn’t run to suit with the outsider (Commodus) going around us and slowing up the pace made us hang on a bit too much," Chipperfield said. "When we needed to finish it off in the last bit he started looking around at the horses beside him so the jockey (Lane) came back in and said he needed the hood to go back on. "He will definitely race in the hood next start and most likely for the rest of his life. "I know there have been some comments that said he looked like he was hanging or suchlike but that wasn’t the case as he was just having a gawk around. "I think it was inexperience as he hasn’t had horses around him going past him like that as he is normally the one going past them, so he was wondering what was going on." Chipperfield spent time with the horse on Sunday morning before heading home to New Zealand and was pleased with what he saw. "He was running around his paddock on Sunday morning, happy as Larry without a care in the world so I was pleased about that," he said. "He left about two handfuls of feed last night, so that wasn’t anything out of the ordinary. "He also had the vets give him a good going over after the race and he passed their tests perfectly. "They took some blood off him which we won’t know about for a couple of days, but he is as bright as a button today and we will keep a good eye on him over the next 48 hours." Chipperfield has Catalyst staying at ex-pat kiwi Brett Scott’s Mornington property and will get a report from Scott during the week before flying back to Melbourne on Friday for the lead-up to the All-Star Mile at Caulfield on March 14. "Scotty is going to give him a trot up tomorrow (Monday) and let me know how he feels while Robert (Priscott) is coming over today (Sunday) to be with him until I get back next Friday," Chipperfield said. "If Robert and Scotty are happy, we will push on to the All-Star. "Damian (Lane) will gallop him and we might even take him to Caulfield for a look around during the week. "If we had an issue, we would be on the next plane home as the welfare of the horse is the number one priority. "He’s a better horse than what we saw on Saturday and we want to show people that next time." - NZ Racing Desk What about the 2000 Guineas I hate to say this, but it seems like a lot of excuses being rolled out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Whatever happens, I'd say you'd get 15s+ if you wanted to back him in the All Stars. He'd be wanting to win after all that above. If he doesn't, what next, Ear Muffs be the best idea if he's had to listen to all that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 I think AB is a superstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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