pete Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 The Irish coaches will be loving these ads that the TAB are playing about their team. Front page of the Herald this morning "Last time NZ lost at Eden Park Ireland's coach was still playing league". Talk about arrogant. My grandfather was born in Ireland so seriously thinking of switching to the green on Saturday 💚 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 The TAB is just trying to increase their profile to increase betting revenue, a percentage of which goes to the Rugby Union. From the amount of discussion on social media, talkback etc etc, it seems to be working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 Oh well, when the Irish forwards smash NZ then we'll know who to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 $3.60 looks seriously tempting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 The All Black forwards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 $4.50 on 365 just too tempting. Go Green! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown fox Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Bet I wasn't the only kiwi cheering on the Irish.🍾 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, brown fox said: Bet I wasn't the only kiwi cheering on the Irish.🍾 I backed them last week but lost my nerve this week. I think they'll win the series now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globederby19 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 And Ian Foster is going to lead us to the next World Cup. PPhhhtt. Apart from good defence we looked bereft of ideas on attack. Some great talent in our team , what a waste. My money is on the Irish to create history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 IMO the general public haven't come along for the ride with Foster/Cane.Even if they thrash Ireland next week the damage has been done.Rugby throut NZ is in decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, ngakonui grass said: IMO the general public haven't come along for the ride with Foster/Cane.Even if they thrash Ireland next week the damage has been done.Rugby throut NZ is in decline. I think that is the most insightful comment I have seen on the subject NG 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonkatime Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 15 hours ago, Maximus said: can't agree with that. ABs got a rough deal with Savea forced to stay off the park and Ta'avao red card? No intent so why red card? An accidental had clash is all it was..., too much TMO interference is ruining the game. If you consider that the ABs spent a lot of time defending with 12/13 men and stayed in the hunt despite the bad breaks, the prospect of a sorely wounded 15-man team playing Ireland for the series should make it a fab finale. Barrett back to #6, Whitelock returns, Havili and Jordan in the run-on 15.....looks like a repeat of First Test to me... MM I tend to agree Max, the AB's had a lot go wrong last test and were still in the game. They need to sort these cards out. You wouldn't see a much geneuine atempt at an intercept than the aussie bloke who got carded for a deliberate knock down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Caller Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 5:41 AM, Maximus said: I thought Eddie Jones was spot on in his assessment on this occasion ...TMOs have to be reined in or the game will fail dismally to attract viewers. Yes, safety is paramount but you can't legislate a fair contest out of existence or you'll have no contest to legislate. Rugby union has always suffered to some extent from the sheer number of players on the field ..take away a couple of players and force scrums out of existence and you have ... league! And the over-exposure of meaningless Super Rugby (to the detriment of our fabulous NPC in its glory days), played in our mid-summer for Gawds's sake ...is it any wonder the public are so choosy now about what/how much rugby they watch? MM Hope all is well in Kiwi Maxi. What with the sky falling on Saturday night, and supporters bining their eye patches and searching their family trees for a bit of green☘ 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 57 minutes ago, Maximus said: hope you are referring only to last Saturday night, MC ...this Sat will be more like the first Test than the second. Beware the wounded All Blacks! Hmm I'm not convinced they have it in them but prepared to be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Caller Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 7 hours ago, Maximus said: hope you are referring only to last Saturday night, MC ...this Sat will be more like the first Test than the second. Beware the wounded All Blacks! Of course Maxi!😁 The thing that gives me the shits,are those(and i will use the term loosely) Herald journos. They are the biggest turncoat about! When the AB's(and any nz sport )is winning,they are licking the boots of the sports people and coaches. As soon as there is a loss,the slipper,bat and knives come out with the big I told you so and finger pointing.Some of the scribes suggestions on how to fix the lose/loses are sometimes laughable. Now, as for as professional rugby is concerned, NZ has led the way for a long time and people just have to realise that like alot of other sports most teams and countries do catch up in time.Personally I think a loss is good for a team that is used to winning. With the way rugby has developed over the years, the World Cup is the only measuring stick, forget about all the tour results and two bit comps,every four years is where it counts. Fingers crossed no armageddon in Wellington Maxi! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 12 hours ago, Midnight Caller said: Of course Maxi!😁 The thing that gives me the shits,are those(and i will use the term loosely) Herald journos. They are the biggest turncoat about! When the AB's(and any nz sport )is winning,they are licking the boots of the sports people and coaches. As soon as there is a loss,the slipper,bat and knives come out with the big I told you so and finger pointing.Some of the scribes suggestions on how to fix the lose/loses are sometimes laughable. Now, as for as professional rugby is concerned, NZ has led the way for a long time and people just have to realise that like alot of other sports most teams and countries do catch up in time.Personally I think a loss is good for a team that is used to winning. With the way rugby has developed over the years, the World Cup is the only measuring stick, forget about all the tour results and two bit comps,every four years is where it counts. Fingers crossed no armageddon in Wellington Maxi! What gets me in the Herald is they seem to have 4 or 5 different people needed to write about rugby. DJ Cameron would be turning in his grave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 If the World Cup is all tht matters why have these other games at all. Judging by the crowds at the 2 Maori games v Ireland it would appear that games outside test matches don't matter at all. Club rugby in NZ is stuffed and the rot is moving upwards imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordy Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 7 hours ago, pete said: What gets me in the Herald is they seem to have 4 or 5 different people needed to write about rugby. DJ Cameron would be turning in his grave. So would T.P. McLean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonkatime Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 6 hours ago, ngakonui grass said: If the World Cup is all tht matters why have these other games at all. Judging by the crowds at the 2 Maori games v Ireland it would appear that games outside test matches don't matter at all. Club rugby in NZ is stuffed and the rot is moving upwards imo. In terms of the Wellington game it was a shitty cold Tuesday night the same week as a series deciding test match. Given that I didn't think the crowd was too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 2nd test an anomaly? Doesn't look like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 Game of two halves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Caller Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Don't look up now Maxi! Samuel L Jackson and Travolta are on there way!!😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesi Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Maximus said: This feels like the late 1990s Taine Randell era all over again ... must be them Waikato coaches ... Don't forget John Mitchell, who made a whole lot of weird decisions when he was coach. Apart from getting thoroughly outplayed, I thought a couple of tactical decisions were strange. Why sub off your captain and on field leader with 15 min to go and the match was still winnable. Why sub on RTS with 10 min to go. A talented player, but with no test experience 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngakonui grass Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 It's interesting to note that since incidences can be refererred to match referees NZ have failed to dominate in the forwards eg nz use to take players out off the ball on a regular basis.Whitelock Retallick and Coles were prominent in this area.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPlodded Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I played rugby from an early age and was seldom away from Eden Park most weekends after age caught up with me. In the last 10 years I hardly watch a game anymore, so unrecognisable the game has become. And I am not alone in this. I challenge anyone to watch 5 rucks/mauls, with the TV sound off and pick what the referee will see and do. Gone are the days of players playing for fun and returning to their career when the back or knee had said “enough”. You chose early in secondary school if you are going to be a “rugby player”. And we wonder why todays players cannot change tactics mid-match. But they can lift weights! I always have a laugh when that KFC advertisement comes on the TV. All Blacks helping at the local clubs… give me a break! The thing I find the strangest in modern professional rugby are the substitutions. When amateur, many stayed on the bench week in and week out, with the best team on the field each week, for all 80 minutes. Yet now everyone gets a turn. No wonder there are no combinations, who knows who will be outside you at any given time in the game. And it shows. Get down to the last 15 minutes when you want your best players and all the reserves are on the field. Fitzpatrick, one of the ABs greatest captains, always took the 3 points in front. “If they want to give us 3 points, I will take them” he would say. As for today’s captain… hmmm. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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